Nov 8, 2018
12 Dead in California Bar Shooting

A hooded gunman dressed entirely in black opened fire on a crowd at a bar in Southern California, killing 12 people.

A gunman opened fire inside a country western dance bar about 40 miles west of Los Angeles, in Thousand Oaks, California. At least 11 victims were killed and a deputy died from his injuries, said Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean. The gunman was found dead inside.

The gunman, identified by police as Ian David Long, 28, killed 12 people, including a sheriff's sergeant who responded to the gunfire. Police later found the shooter dead inside the bar, possibly from a self-inflicted wound.

Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said that Ian Long drove to the Borderline Bar & Grill on Wednesday night and opened fire before he entered the nightclub. Long, who had served in the U.S. Marine Corps, used a Glock .45-caliber handgun that he purchased legally, Dean said.

Dean said that investigators do not know Long's motive for carrying out the shooting. Long shot a security guard outside the bar and continued shooting once he entered the club.

The dead from the shooting Wednesday night also included 11 people inside the bar and a sheriffs sergeant who was the first officer inside the door, Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said.

Its a horrific scene in there, Dean told a news conference in the parking lot of the Borderline Bar & Grill. Theres blood everywhere.

The massacre was the deadliest mass shooting in the United States since 17 classmates and teachers were gunned down at a Parkland, Florida school nine months ago. It also came less than two weeks after a gunman killed 11 people at a synagogue in Pittsburgh. That, it turn, closely followed the series of pipe bombs mailed to prominent Democrats, CNN and former officials critical of President Donald Trump.

The gunman at the dance bar was tall and wearing all black with a hood over his head and his face partly covered, witnesses told TV stations at the scene. He first fired on a person working the door, then appeared to open fire at random at the people inside, they said.

Many more people had more minor injuries, including some that came from their attempt to flee, Dean said.

Sheriffs Sgt. Ron Helus and a passing highway patrolman were responding to several 911 calls when they arrived at the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks at about 11:20 p.m., the sheriff said. They heard gunfire and went inside.

Helus was immediately hit with multiple gunshots, Dean said. The highway patrolman cleared the perimeter and pulled Helus out, and then waited as a SWAT team and scores more officers arrived. Helus died early Thursday at a hospital.

By the time they entered the bar again the gunfire had stopped. They found 12 people dead inside, including the gunman.

Its not yet clear how the gunman died, and authorities do not yet know his name or have any idea of a motive, Dean said.

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its sad that the US have let these people in and are not able to monitor them, let alone the fact that the mainstream media is run by arab money and they can't report things as they really are. The US was such a great country
(11/8/2018 8:21:01 AM)
Where in southern California
Was the shooting
(11/8/2018 8:22:09 AM)
To Comment number 1
Really? "These people"? Statistically the chances are that the shooter was a Caucasian male, like the Pittsburgh shooter, like the Kansas shooter, like the Orlando shooter, like the Parkland shooter, like the Sandy Hook shooter. Shall we go on naming the multitude of mass shootings where the perpetrator was a white dude? Yet the first smart aleck comment you jump to say centers around the assumption that an immigrant is the perp. We are the children of immigrants, this country was founded by immigrants and on the premise of immigrants building it up. Seriously, what is wrong with you?
(11/8/2018 9:24:26 AM)
A warning
I was Anti gun all my life. My son couldn't have a water pistol. As much as I dislike them now i believe we must protect ourselves. We have a huge safe, my husband is licensed to carry. I hope he never has to use them but I've changed my mind. We live in a crazy world. Hashem protects us but i refuse to be a victim.
(11/8/2018 9:57:41 AM)
the shooting was in Thousand Oaks
Ventura County
(11/8/2018 10:33:20 AM)
To #1
He was from Ian David Long from Newbury Park, California. Are you upset that he was allowed to leave his white, privileged home to murder innocent people?
Just trying to understand
(11/8/2018 11:05:06 AM)
To #1
Youre a disgusting racist. Ill bet so much money that the shooter was White.
(11/8/2018 12:40:16 PM)
Sorry, this article is far from the full story
He was a Marine (28 years old) vet who had been in Afganastan and apparently suffered from PTSD. Unfortunately when he was examined earlier this year by emergency mental health in response to a police call to his mothers house, he was not commitable at the time. His gun was a legally purchased glock by the way.
If you know someone not yet frum who reads the Washington Post, their article seems to be written in an intelligent and non biased way.
In now way am I suggesting that a frum person go to the news site. I have had a frum friend who is helping me improve ask me about this and I told her what I just posted.
(11/8/2018 1:28:30 PM)
What's going on?!
It's like just one massacre after another. A generation ago, the signs of Moshiach was major regime changes(e.g the fall of the Soviet Union, and the end of communism in most of Europe) - the miracle being that hardly a shot was fired to make those changes,with the exception of Romania.

But, what is this? How many more outrages will it take before Moshiach finally comes? Maybe the whole world has to go so mad - that everyone will realize that you have to turn to G-d. Then, he will send Moshiach, BE"H.
(11/8/2018 4:58:07 PM)
Only ONE THING to say:

Hashem please take us out of this treacherous Golus.
We are doing our very best filling the world with Hashem's Holiness and Light.. but these situations are Hashem's doings and it's gotta STOP! MOSHIACH NOW!
(11/8/2018 5:11:11 PM)
all who buy guns need a form from a psychiatrist
its not ok to sell guns to mentally sick
it was not ok not to provide a mental care for a marine veteran
it was not ok not to admit this guy to mental hospital when his mother asked the police in april this year
sorry for the lost of all innocent people
(11/8/2018 5:13:30 PM)
On racism
Yeah! For a long time we had tzuros from Islamic/Arab/African/left-wing anti-Semitism, etc. Now, we see traditional ,grassroots, white Jew-hatred rearing its ugly and deadly head again. When I lived in Pittsburgh, anti-Semitic epithets were hurled at me by white and black.

But, I never would have thought something so extreme like this would occur, HY"D. Not in a place like Pittsburgh.
(11/8/2018 6:02:34 PM)
Re # 11
You are so right.
(11/8/2018 8:02:21 PM)
my humble opinion
nothing to do with 'white jew hatred',and all to do with untreated PTSD of a marine, read up
(11/9/2018 12:03:15 AM)
Sounds like R. Meir Kahane, HY"D
He was fond of saying, "Want to know what Goyim really think of Jews?" Just go into any place where they get drunk. " I would equate PTSD with that too.
(11/9/2018 11:59:13 AM)
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