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Taking ‘Chumros’ to Task

Rabbi Yosef Heller, respected member of the Crown Heights Bais Din and Rosh Kollel Menachem, is taking the many 'Pesach Chumros' to task. "A Chumra needs a source and it should not be at the expense of Shalom Bayis," he says. Full Story

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to #38 from Shliach
April 12, 2009 2:31 am

As far as I am concerned Rav Heller iz a chassidishe yid un re veist vos er redt. Zicher er hot gelernt in Brisk Yerusholayim un dos iz oicht nit a chisoroin nor a maile. Oft ven men kumt fun droysn er ken zen beser. You might have a problem with Rabbi Heller but he is the only on on the CH Beth din not involved in politics (at least since Fisher) and he is a real mentch!!!

to #5
April 8, 2009 5:56 am

no surprise that with the screen name you put to your comment you’d like the misconstrude content of this article. zei nisht kein kal. do haltz zich far a shliach!!!!!

flip-flop
April 8, 2009 5:47 am

read carefuly the original piece and you’ll be more confused than before you started:
here are a few flip-flop exemples:
you don’t need to take on a chumrah that you parents didn’t keep – later he says: if you joined a kehilah, then you need to take in the chumros.
vekaheina rabos.
but those of you on the left who voted obama should have no problems with flip-flopping.
most inspiring is the overwheming responsefrom all the porkei ol who now found a hechsher for their kalus (not kulos)

PS:col, print this if you have a backbone.

reply to 35
April 8, 2009 3:54 am

sounds like your mother wanted to make the house yomtovdik. i did come from such a household too, and i loved the feel of the house being so clean for the chag. my mother would get up earlier in the day for 6 weeks before pesach so as not to disrupt her routine or the household or to place undue pressure on anyone else in the house. bottom line is that everyone should be happy. my mother had 2 children and didnt work – this is an important point. everyone has to see what is realistic for them and prioritize… Read more »

reply to 26
April 7, 2009 10:31 am

You obviously have no idea what ocd is, next tme do a bit of research before posting

Care is needed
April 7, 2009 10:29 am

Be careful of belittling any minhag and one should not start removing chumros which are in the family it can only lead to bad things. except if it is an issue of sholom bais I hold one should never remove a chumroh.

ask a rov!
April 7, 2009 10:27 am

about pratim

Thank you
April 7, 2009 12:15 am
garlic
April 6, 2009 7:28 pm

The Rebbe Rashab once saw “retach” (radish) served by the bochrim in Lubavitch and said don’t you know that retach and garlic are not eatn Pesach?

to 26 27 and 28
April 6, 2009 5:06 pm

Ailu Ve’ailu Divrie Elokim Chaim, neither spouse has a right to abuse others due to their own issues.

WAIT! Just Remember...
April 6, 2009 3:12 pm

The Alter Rebbe says in Shulchan Aruch that one should be Machmir all Chumra’s! Of course, you have to have brain’s (not like other’s i’ve seen, that just drive their whole community up the wall becuause he think’s he has to be the Frum est guy in town)

It should be made very clear: what is a CHUMRAH, and what is a MESHUGAS! Before you know the diffrence… do not talk!

Yasher Koach Rabbi Heller

are you sure?
April 6, 2009 9:43 am
to #26
April 6, 2009 9:27 am

your point is right but the Rebbe told it to the husband that his wife isnt a korban pesach

obsessive compulsive disorder
April 6, 2009 8:52 am

A mother once came to the rebbe kvetching that her children won;t help her enough with cleaning 4 Pesach. The rebbe told her “dust is not chometz and your children are NOT the korban Pesach!
its not a mitzva to abuse your children!
the obsessive women are suffering from ocd.
trust me, I grew up in a house where we thought it was normal to have to scrub the chandelier and the bathrooms for Pesach. Please, Yom Tov is meant to be enjoyed! not to hate it!!

please advise
April 6, 2009 7:19 am

How many people will now follow these very general statements without fully looking into the matter?
make sure you ask a rov before you act!!
Heres a very large question not being addressed here!
If one did except “baseless chumros, or in the case of shalom bayis” does one need to make hatoras nedorim?
is it so simple?

To #20:
April 6, 2009 5:05 am

You are:
1. abusively a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.
2. a person of borderline intelligence, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.

The heading is misleading
April 6, 2009 5:02 am

Rabbi Heller has been saying this for years. He is not taking chumros to task
but rather puting our focus in the right place.
I would like COL to post his opinion on Tznius.

To #20
April 6, 2009 3:40 am

Dah… you are such a moron…

talk talk!
April 6, 2009 3:10 am

ar you going to do somthing

Internet !!!
April 6, 2009 2:33 am

To all those praising Rabbi Heller, what do you think he’d say about you reading his drosha on the internet! we all know how strongly he opposses the use of the internet, or perhaps we pick and choose, we take what we like yet something we disagree with we say “Na, Ah Misnagdisha Rov, Vos Farshtait Ehr ” just some food for thought! , If the man has is head on right, it’s all year round!

he was voted in
April 6, 2009 2:27 am

for life BH

A Mentsch
April 6, 2009 2:05 am

No wonder Rabbi Heller has always been our beloved Rov. He is such a mentsch!
G-d bless him!

With much appreciation to Rav Heller and his talmidim
April 6, 2009 2:04 am

One comment about the article writing:
Correct me please if I am wrong.

Hayom yom 20 Nissan says one shouldn’t offer a guest what to eat, but he may take himself. Rav Heller most likely said that we infer from that a chumra “that one should not eat by another on Pesach.”

Right?

Ashreinu !!
April 6, 2009 1:48 am

How fortunate we are to have the Zechus to have a Rov like Rabbi Heller in our midst! , a true example of a Chasidisher Yiras Shomayaim and a Dugma Chaya for us and our children, “Yarech Yomim Al Mamlachto”.

Fans of Rabbi Heller - for Pesach only
April 6, 2009 1:19 am

I love it.

Rabbi Heller talks about this concept every year to the kolel (or very much along the same lines).

You have so many people that will never look in his direction all year, let alone listen to him (his opinions are well known).

Comes Pesach, he says something which appears to be less stringent then they’ve been doing till now — Bingo! Look what a following he’s got!!!

Brilliant!
April 6, 2009 1:12 am

Thank you for clarifying the importance and need for putting our energies in the right place and having the correct focus this Pesach. A much needed article. Yasher Koach!

So impressed
April 6, 2009 12:49 am

Imformative, gives a halochik source for everything, my only hope is that people won’t say look we can eat anything on pesach, rabbi heller says so.

Wait a minute!
April 6, 2009 12:00 am

Before you go running off to quote the Rov, I’m not so sure all the people who are so excited about this article will be as willing to listen to and follow Rabbi Heller’s guidance and advice about many other issues throughout the year. If you look closely, the main point the Rov is making is to prioritize and focus on halacho and the more important things FIRST. He has similar thoughts and has shared them often about the general approach of focusing on minhogim and side chomros throughout the year and in other matters that make one “feel good”… Read more »

Akeras Habayis
April 5, 2009 11:54 pm

Finally, a voice of reason. It will take time but hopefully articles like this will help people.

Laaniyas Dayti
April 5, 2009 10:50 pm

1. There is the old anecdote of a lady telling her friends that her husband is a big machmir. Machmir a cholent, machmimir a kugel etc etc. 2. What is refreshing here is that common sense may yet return to Chabad!! Oy vey, unemployment of mashpiim on the horizon? 3. What is MOST INTERESTING: Litvaks have chumros. Chassidim have zehirussen. The same issue can be a chumra there (and needs sholom bayis warnings) – and a zehirus here, which by definition has sholom bayis in the equation. 4. Perhaps the same “chassidim” who have abandoned common sense are those who… Read more »

One of the only real rabbonim left in Lubavitch
April 5, 2009 8:20 pm

Him and Rabbi Yarkovitch of Lod.

Rabbi Heller...
April 5, 2009 8:08 pm

A TRUE ROV!!!

Relieved!!!!!
April 5, 2009 7:35 pm

Amazing!!! My mother drives herself and all of us meshuge. We starve for days before pesach. What’s all the good if none of us even enjoy pesach?!?? Than you Rabbi Heller. Ahhhh… Imagine being able to put on some lipstick lchavod yom tov without having to convince my mother that even though I’m starving I won’t eat the lipstick

THANK YOU!
April 5, 2009 6:36 pm

YASHOR KOACH RABBI HELLER. A BREATH OF FRESH AIR!

Shliach
April 5, 2009 6:07 pm

This is a 5 star article.

finally somone speaks up
April 5, 2009 6:00 pm

yay people we can be normal again

Thank you!
April 5, 2009 5:39 pm

Thank you for posting this informative article – setting people’s “priority’s” straight….

RABBI HELLER IS SO AWESOME!!!
April 5, 2009 5:24 pm
Must show this to my parents
April 5, 2009 5:20 pm

Awesome. For what my opinion is worth, I agree one hundred percent!!!

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