Mar 31, 2009
'No Signs at Birchas Hachama'

Unity at last? Following a controversial article on COLlive, it seems like the Gaboim of 770 are making a gesture towards compromise. "We don't want to intimidate; there won't be signs of any kind," Zalman Lipskier told COLlive. Rabbi Avraham Osdoba will be invited to the podium at Birchas Hachama.

By COLlive reporter

Common ground seems to have been achieved in Crown Heights as the Gaboim of 770 have made a step towards compromise.

Rabbi Avraham Osdoba, the senior authority of the local Bais Din, will be invited to the podium at the Birchas Hachama ceremony in front of 770 Eastern Parkway.

Scheduled for 8:00 am on April 8, 2009 (14 Nissan 5769), this once in 28 years event will include the special customary prayer. But some expressed concern over a messianic skew of the event in an article on COLlive.

Speaking today with COLlive, 770 Gabai Zalman Lipskier sounded more accommodating.

"Wo don't want to intimidate," he said. "There won't be signs of any kind if anyone is worried about that."

The event will be kept short, he said. Men will stand near 770 and women on the other side of the parkway. Police were already seen today positioning barriers.

A recording of the Lubavitcher Rebbe saying one of the three Sichos which he said during the previous event in 1981 will be played. Yossi Cohen will be playing music as a finale.

Lipskier said Rabbi Osdoba will be making a Siyum for the first-borns who fast on Erev Pesach.

Rabbi Shmuel Butman, Director of Lubavitch Youth Organization, was mentioned as the agreed upon emcee.


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1
Great
Wow, this is really wonderful news.
Glad to see things were worked out. This is sure to be a beautiful event to remember!
(4/1/2009 9:31:31 AM)
2
"UNITY"
This is called unity? I wonder...
(4/1/2009 9:31:58 AM)
3
Boruch Hashem
So it s not all about Yechi after all. At least our children will have memories of a nice event, like we did 28 years ago.

Thats what's important!
(4/1/2009 9:33:35 AM)
4
28 years ago there was yechi
(4/1/2009 9:37:56 AM)
5
yechi hamelech! moshiach now!
there should be yechi.
you're not a meshichist? then keep quiet.
nobody is making you say it.
(4/1/2009 9:52:57 AM)
6
Any other's scheduled?
Is the Minyin at the Rebbe’s room putting together a program of their own? Please let us know. I still think this event of the so called “Gaboim” will be full of the "Yechi" sounds. No reason our kids need that experience.
(4/1/2009 9:59:40 AM)
7
Booklet
Whose booklet will they be distributing (as mentioned on the poster), the Kehot one (yellow), or the fake Kehot one (blue)?

That will answer the question if it is achdus or machloikes!
(4/1/2009 10:15:27 AM)
8
thank you
thank you col for advretizing bircas hachamah
this is real achdus
(4/1/2009 10:22:49 AM)
9
to 6
u r definately weird.
what do u mean: "No reason our kids need that experience"?
u sure aren't a guy that has achdus!
work on it...we need MOSHIACH NOW!
(4/1/2009 10:23:52 AM)
10
Why wouldn't your kids need that experiance?!
(4/1/2009 10:25:43 AM)
11
to #5
You are correct.
(4/1/2009 10:26:15 AM)
12
unity
After so many arguments, a compromise was reached. Now let's leave it that way.
(4/1/2009 10:33:03 AM)
13
THIS IS AMAZING NEWS!!!!
ACHDUS ALL THE WAY!
(4/1/2009 10:34:30 AM)
14
YOU ARE KIDDING ME!!!!
this is called achdus this is blogna bogus garbage these gaboim are full of it there wont be signs but there will be flags and then they put yechi on the flyer these people have given the Rebbe agmas nefesh and its a chutzpah they are allowed to do this in front of the Rebbes shul!!!
(4/1/2009 10:39:47 AM)
15
can't wait 4 it!
-kids don't need that experiance...
-which booklet....
ENOUGH! let's have achdus and bring moshiach!
(4/1/2009 10:40:41 AM)
16
look at the bottom of the posters
thats already the advertisement

unfortunately the inmares are running the asylum

the rebbe would be throw these gaboim on there ear out of 77o for the damage they have caused lubavitch worldwide
(4/1/2009 10:43:29 AM)
17
to 16
damage? get a life!
(4/1/2009 10:46:29 AM)
18
wow - collive!
Wow, collive has the power to create peace!

Thank you for doing the great work you've been doing.

This will give the Rebbe Nachas.

(4/1/2009 10:49:46 AM)
19
nice
glad to see we can put aside our differences....
(4/1/2009 11:11:19 AM)
20
#6
I think what #6 meant was that he doest want his kids to have a Birchas Hachama “yechi”, flags and all that goes along with its craziness experience rather a Birchas Hachama the way it is meant to be.
(4/1/2009 11:12:42 AM)
21
Always hopeful but always realistic :(
I am not a Yechi person...I haven't set foot in 770 in years because of all the nonsense that goes on. But I am very pleased that sanity appears to prevail. I just hope there will be no screaming of Yechi & that Lipskier will inform all his Talmidim that Yechi WAS NOT screamed in 1981. And therefore, as this is following exactly the way Birkas hachama was done then, by our Rebbe, there won't be any garbage this time.

So how come I don't believe it will be like 1981?
(4/1/2009 11:42:36 AM)
22
to comment number 3
a nice event ..... please without the Rebbe i dont care how many rabonim are on the podium
(4/1/2009 11:48:03 AM)
23
no achdus
Just look at their sign how many times it says melech hamoshiach. lipsker is no gabai, the rebbe clearly told him NOT TO BE GABAI - maybe COL wants to publish the letter from rabbo chadakov about lipsker not being gabbai.

Let lipsker make a program in 770 with all the tzfatis throwing food and sefirm at each other while the rest of CH will do it outside under the real gabai RABBI ZEV KATZ!
(4/1/2009 12:19:55 PM)
24
wy dos evriwon think in soch a way?
birkas hachamah this year wil be with the rebe (whith the geulah) we wil al se the rebe and the hole world wil screm yechi together!
(4/1/2009 12:33:43 PM)
25
proud crown hieghts mother
dear all crown hieghts residents

i hope everyone ,men, women and children join and come to this event.
just think of the incredible kiddush lubavitch it will be for the world to see.

thank you
(4/1/2009 12:38:35 PM)
26
Achdus
THE REAL ACHDUS BIRCHAS HACHAMA WILL TAKE PLACE AT 7:30 AM UNDER THE GABBOIM ZEV KATZ AND MEIR HARLIG TWO PEOPLE WHO WERE ALWAYS INVOLVED IN AVODAS HAKODESH UNDER THE REBBE AND HAD BROCHOS TO BE REAL GABBOIM. THIS WILL BE TRUE ACHDUS FOR THE COMMUNITY. THEY WILL SAY THE 12 PESUKIM AND THEY WILL SAY THE FIRST PART OF YECHI JUST AS IT WAS DONE 28 YEARS AGO.
(4/1/2009 12:39:32 PM)
27
moshiach now
with hashems help there wont be any need for anyone to speculate what will happen by birchas hachama 5769 b/c thhe rebbe wiil reveal himself and then evreyone will say yechi bachdus and there will be no fights
(4/1/2009 12:48:11 PM)
28
SIGNS
WHY DO THE SIGNS NEED TO SAY YECHI?
(4/1/2009 12:49:30 PM)
29
Do you guys know what Yechi means at all?
The Rebbe said that saying "Yechi Hamelech" adds life to the king and is Poel "Hakitzu v'Ranenu Shochnei Ofor - K"K Mu"ch Admu"r, until "Hakitzu vranenu Dovid Malka Meshicha"! (The Sicha of Beis Nissan 5748)
So what are you so heated up they shouldn't say Yechi? do YOU want to do what the REBBE wants???
(4/1/2009 1:07:03 PM)
30
agree with 28
whats wit yechi on yhe sign? unity? compromise?
ya no yechi, THATS how it was 28 years ago!!
"the program will folow... the order...the rebbe established...in 1981"---NOW IT WILL FOLOW THE WAY THE TZFATIM AND YCHINICKS DECIDE FOR THE REBBE
(4/1/2009 1:14:14 PM)
31
To 24. why does everyone think in such a way?
BIRKAS HACHAMAH THIS YEAR WILL BE WITH THE REBE (WITH THE GEULAH) WE WILL ALL SEE THE REBE AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL SCREAM YECHI TOGETHER! very nice, I just wanted to correct a few spelling mistakes you made.
(4/1/2009 1:14:31 PM)
32
Yechi or no Yechi
28 is gematria Yechi!
(4/1/2009 1:41:28 PM)
33
NO YECHI
To all those who thinks that unity means that we must just tolerate your friend (or Tzfati) saying yechi, how about if we decide to sing Hatikvah at the event? Will you just shut up and be respectful for the sake of Unity? How about if we feel that Yechi is the most embarrassing thing in Lubavitch today? Should we just collaborate on the event nonetheless, irrespective of the Chillul Shem Lubavitch it will cause (in our humble opinion)?
(4/1/2009 2:28:39 PM)
34
maybe maybe
let us have achdus real achdus
let rabbi kat and rabbi harlig and zalman lipskeir and losh and all the rest stand on the bimah and all the mazkirim rabbis klein groner krinsky simpson

and let the oilam be united

now col do your job and get them all there without the yechi ????

i know the answer but please i beg you prove me wrong

let see mi lahshem who is for achdus
(4/1/2009 2:37:58 PM)
35
oh and
since this is real achdus let all the shuls print their own posters as they see fit and invite all their members

achdus

and also let kehos the real one be there and give out their booklet

and the people can choose what they like

i would like to see all the shuls create posters and hang them up with yechi for those that want and without yechi for those that want
live and let live
and may we all join together
(4/1/2009 2:41:44 PM)
36
to all anti yechinicks
will it be ok to say

"yechi adoineinu moreinu verabenu"

those 4 words just those 4

as was always said by the rebbe

just a thought
(4/1/2009 2:44:08 PM)
37
to 36
can you please traslate those four words into english and say them outloud to yourself.I think after doing that you'll see why it's not ok
(4/1/2009 3:04:03 PM)
38
to 35
no problem ask kehot to give it out for free (NOT HAPENING)
(4/1/2009 3:40:27 PM)
39
Rabbi???
A rabbi that's in Cherem can be up on the podium and be honered by all his naive congregants....However, he CAN NOT make any halachik decisious or be mesader kedushim if he is in cherem...
(4/1/2009 4:16:32 PM)
40
yechi hamelch
im'h moshiach will come and yuddel krinsy will say yechi and avremel shem-tov will answer YECHI HAMELECH
(4/1/2009 4:20:03 PM)
41
To Comment 7
The book will be a replica of the one given out and used in 1981
(4/1/2009 5:09:05 PM)
42
lubavitcher
I'm so excited. This is the first time in my life that I will be by Birchas Hachama. REBBE, your children/ chassidim need you!! WE WANT MOSHIACH NOW! Even in lakewood they're hoping Moshiach will come this year so that it won't be the year 5770!! We'll take him now too!!!
(4/1/2009 5:23:25 PM)
43
to number 36
of course it will be ok

the whole question or problem or u fill in the blank is with moshaich LOLOM VAED
sillly
(4/1/2009 6:00:42 PM)
44
if only they had brains
why can't they find common ground? why does everyone only care about his carer and interests.

don't quote me the rebbes sichos b/c the rebbe want achdus amongst chassidim [i.e. ahavas yisroel] more then anything
(4/1/2009 6:16:56 PM)
45
to anyone who askes what wrong with just saying yechi...
to anyone who askes what wrong with just saying yechi...

they just chose a new niggun for yud aleph nissan. So not only do they add yechi after the words of the tehilim. now they are MIXING it in with the holy words of dovid hamelech. and not only that during teh song they sing these words
"melech hamoshiach chai vekayom al kol ha'aretz kevodecha" were is teh separation between hashem and teh rebbe. its all one thing.....

this has to stop......
(4/1/2009 6:22:21 PM)
46
"...There are no misnagdim anymore"
Bs"d
Everybody has a cousin named Mendy. And Mendy hopefully will reach out to all.
(4/1/2009 6:48:24 PM)
47
To 33
If the Rebbe would have encouraged Hatikva, then YES!!!
(4/1/2009 7:27:55 PM)
48
Bludger
Well, well, well, the YECHI is still their on the posters. I am sure it's just a political move. It's a good sign, it shows that even gaboyim of 'Beis Moshiach' are aware that people are fed up with all these moshichist antiques.
(4/1/2009 9:21:24 PM)
49
Include the kids
So are the schools back on board?
(4/2/2009 1:46:40 AM)
50
oy vey!
Please just take a deep breath, and let go....... Let go of all the negativity that you are feeling.
Just let everyone live and be. Don't harbor so much anger and hatred. Fill yourself with love and joy. Go on, try it. Suddenly the world around you will be a prettier place, your children will be happier and not want to distance themselves from you and your lifestyle and the people around you will want to be near you. Your general health and well-being will be better too. Go on see for yourself! The Rebbe loves you, the Aibeshter loves you, it's all gonna work out:)
(And if you don't know how to do that, look for someone who can teach you those skills, you'll be so happy you did!)
(4/2/2009 2:02:15 AM)
51
Yechi WILL be said (just no signs)
In 1981 at Birchas Hachama, and at every Rally in 770, we always DID SAY YECHI adoenenu morenu verabenu (they just left out the words "melech hamoshiach leolam vaed").

Check every video of every Rally in font of the Rebbe, they always said YECHI in front of the Rebbe.

As for a referendum in CH if we want "Yechi said B'ACHDUS", we go my MAJORITY VOTE and the majority of CH elected the Gaboim to run 770.

The handful of Machlokes Machers, who apose Yechi - they were NEVER ELECTED by the majority of CH, period.

Those who appose Yechi are Individual DICTATORS who seek to impose their will against the will of the majority of CH which elected the Gaboim.

New elections for Gaboim will take place Rosh Chodesh Iyar, this year and anyone who wants to elect someone who Will say ZAYA all day and dance with a ZAYA-FLAG, "Koch in DEATH" and instead of "Koching in LIFE", can have their vote and the democratic majority of CH will democratically elect Yechi vs Zaya.

(4/2/2009 2:27:20 AM)
52
to 51
The same old propaganda.
Those days of leis and deceit are over.
Those days are long gone, 14 years we all see the results for ourselves.
Majority ? what a Joke!


The same old propaganda.
Those days of leis and deceit are over.
Those days are long gone, 14 years we all see the results for ourselves.
Majority ? what a Joke!

Your the usual jealous hating monger who are afraid (like Z.L)
that if there is g-d forbid any type of progress, you and your fellow baal moachlokes (who never do anything good, just destroy) will become irrelevant.
News flash, you and your friends have become irrelevant long ago.

We are sick a tiered of your hate and leis etc… there is a new generation of young men, willing to do something (that will bring to actual fruition).

(4/2/2009 3:07:05 AM)
53
51 the hate monger
thats why so many new shuls have opened up in the last 14 years.
Yet, even if only two people will be left to Davven (down stairs) in 770, they will always be "the Majority".

"You can't fool g-d, and you can't fool other people.
the only one you can fool is yourself. And what is the achievment of fooling a fool"?
Rabbi shmual of Lubavitch
(4/2/2009 3:13:41 AM)
54
anti yiche
yiche was sad by the rebbe but it means long live then the rebbe lived
(4/2/2009 3:51:31 AM)
55
to 23
i totaly agree
(4/2/2009 3:52:15 AM)
56
to mr 51
I would love to talk to you personally.
I don’t think you understand Hebrew

there is nothing wrong (everyone agrees) with the first part of the yechi.. long live the king... of course.... the problem is with the last part of melech hamoshiach lolom voed.
and you said these words

"(they just left out the words "melech hamoshiach leolam vaed"). " and you wrote it in prentices????!!!????

that’s the whole problem

you must be very young.. oh well
(4/2/2009 4:22:21 AM)
57
elections
lets make elections
like the rebbe wanted

and see who wins

maybe all the news shuls should be encouraged to vote

and all the people should put up candidates those that say yechi those that oppse yechi

and let the majority rule

and by the way for all your information
i heard that rabbi zev katzs is STILL a gabai downstairs and that if he ever wants to partisipate they will let him

he just chooses not to partake and share it with them

but zalman lipskier told me many times if rabbi zev katzs wants to come down he will be more then welcome

so who is against achdus ?
(4/2/2009 4:36:15 AM)
58
missing the point
Yechi was a good thing before gimmel tammuz, after gimmel tamuz you dont write or scream shlita, the rebbe was the bigges supporter of the friediker rebbe, and said hes alive and all, but never went around screaming yechi, never wrote shlita in his seforim, or on the signs for yud shvat. rabbosai its a chillul hashem and chillul lubavitch to go around saying the rebbe is alive begashmiyus in 770 as he was before gimmel tammuz. enough is enough.!
(4/2/2009 4:39:18 AM)
59
A Pained Community member
Recently we have suffered so many tragedies to young people in the Chabad Community at large,Please, Ad Msai,let us join together Lilui Nishmas all of those young neshamos and each in our own way call for Moshiach,while respecting our neighbours way of calling for Moshiach as well.
(4/2/2009 6:08:29 AM)
60
MOSIACH WITH THE REBE
this is what stops mosich from comming please open your eyse
(4/2/2009 8:54:54 AM)
61
to 58
Get your facts straight. You sound like the guy who knew "only the other half of shas"...

Read your sources.
(4/2/2009 2:33:00 PM)
62
Disgusting
Moshiach comes from yechi
Ad mosai
(4/2/2009 7:55:35 PM)
63
M
nuuuu ppl birkas hachama comes once in 28 years. i honestly wonder how many of the commenters were already born by last one in 5741.
and to 54, we sing it now to strengthen our faith and to make also others believe that the rebe is alive
yechi hamelech!!!!!!!
(4/3/2009 1:19:57 AM)
64
ADULTS- BEHAVE
Everyone will feel disappointed and offended by what someone else will be doing or not doing.

So just hold yourself back, don't say anything, smile and be nice to the guy who is doing or not doing the "terrible" thing and all will be good.

Think before you act like a maniac.
(4/4/2009 7:23:02 PM)
65
ad mosai
i read these comments and i cry. wen will moshiach come? no 59 is right! onkly through true ahavas yisrael will the world return to complete sanity!!!!
the world stands on 3 things toah, avodah and gemillas chassodim!!!! know that every day!!!!!
(4/6/2009 11:47:19 AM)
66
A little song
Let's be friends, whith one an other
Let's be friends, now and forever...
Fine i don't know all the words of the song, but the point is that it doesn't matter if you say tomato and i say tomata (or you say yechi and i don't ) because Birchas Hachama doesn't have to do anything with it. It's about the sun being in the same place as it started, therefore this is about Hashem. And hashem doesn't need anything to be said. Hashem just wants to be able to see a few hundred jews getting along for just a few minutes to see HIS SUN.
(4/6/2009 4:03:30 PM)
67
Thanks
Great enterainment from pesach cleaning
(4/6/2009 4:07:24 PM)
68
I thought Mitzvos brought Moshiach closer
to #62, I guess you disagree?
(4/6/2009 5:08:28 PM)
69
to whoevere filtters the comments
men tur nisht zugen a ligen ober nisht alts(about the achdus or problem of it) darf men zogin (ubefrat mefarsaim zayn) on the world wide web
(4/7/2009 11:10:47 AM)
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