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Does More = Less in Education?

Op-Ed: Instead of asking your child what subjects he "covered" in school, find out what wasn't learned that day. Full Story

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The question I asked my boys usually was...
March 10, 2014 12:24 pm

..what questions did you ask in class today?.

Grateful Parent
March 9, 2014 6:10 pm

I was lucky to have Rabbi Feldman who taught the boys how to understand what they are learning and taught them how to open a gemarah and learn. Today he is in zal and loves to learn, Thank You Rabbi Feldman ( today he is a teacher 8th grade o.t.) Lucky those boys who have him. May Hashem continue to give him kochos to be able to teach many more years and have hashpah on many more talmidim!
Go Rabbi Feldman!!!!!Much Hatzlocha!!!!!!

There is a goal that comes much before all of this
March 9, 2014 7:44 am

The most important thing to assure first is that the child LOVES learning Torah (and doing mitzvos). Without that love all the skills and knowledge in the world will be discarded in favor of what the individual is attracted to.
Once you’ve taken care of the love, you can work and skills and knowledge retention.
Question to every parent and teacher.
Do you know what will make your child LOVE what you teach?
THAT is the KEY issue.

the story in Bova Basra
March 9, 2014 3:09 am

As #7 writes, the story is in Bova Basra 22b, with Dovid Hamelech and Yoav, not with Shaul. Also, even though tosfos (interestingly without a dibur hamaschil) says that the teacher taught correctly, that is not our girsah in the gemorah. According to our girsah Yoav specifically went back to his teacher and asked him what he taught, and the teacher answered the wrong way. According to one opinion in gemorah Yoav then killed him.

I also thank Rabbi Levi
March 8, 2014 9:34 pm

Our Grandson Berel Simon was in Rabbi Levi’s class. I was amazed and grateful for the wonderful year he had doing so many hands on projects (He was so excited about The Megillah and Menorah)

As Rabbi Sholom Binyomin Ginsburg says....
March 8, 2014 9:19 pm

“The only place we cover ground is in a cemetery”

Be very careful
March 8, 2014 9:07 pm

Every caring parent and teacher must go to http://www.mastertorah.com Rabbi Pogrow’s system is the only system that I have found to work in making children into successful learners. His principle is that a student must first KNOW what he has been taught and then REMEMBER what he has learned. The only way for students to remember what they learn is by having constant DAILY chazara. I taught “skills” to my students and I felt so unsatisfied because there was no way for anyone to tell whether or not I had been successful. If they would test one of the students… Read more »

Teacher
March 8, 2014 9:01 pm

Just like The more you drive the better driver u become so too the more text you cover the the better u will be !!
Both are equally important

A Self Destructing Article.
March 8, 2014 8:15 pm

As a melamed for a number of years, I thinkthis article is misleading many parents and melamdim alike. I’ve observed many classes and many yeshivos in action. Today it has become the in thing to teach “skills and skills and skills.” well guess what? if you don’t practice those skills you don’t remember them! Take Gemara as an example, a rebbi teaches his class the essential skills to knowing how to read a piece of Gemara. I see this being done in every class I visit; they put so much focus on the “skill” and looking at the skill from… Read more »

Wow!
March 8, 2014 8:12 pm

I agree 100%! It is amazing to have such principals who care so deeply about the Chinuch of our children!

Keep up the great work!

The story of Shaul
March 8, 2014 7:19 pm

Wasn’t with Shaul but with Dovid and Yoav

Agree
March 8, 2014 7:08 pm

Gut gezugt!

A teacher
March 8, 2014 7:00 pm

Firstly, I agree 100% with all you’ve said.

The pressure to cover ground vs. teaching skills ca often come from exactly those parents who want to know what the kids have covered and how fast were moving through the text. Teaching skills is alot less measurable.

Also, there is tremendous pressure from the hanhola in most schools to move quicker, cover more ground and not “waste time”.

As a teacher I WISH I was given the space to focus on essential skills.

Well written
March 8, 2014 3:18 pm

Rabbi Yossi Rosenblum is one of the top mechanchim in our times. Well written and explained. Thank you

to dear and esteemed Rabbi Yossi Rosenblum
March 8, 2014 12:35 pm

these words are a re-eye opener to me its something that’s long long overdue in being addressed and something that is lacking tremendously.
people might say now doesn’t quantity (information) bring to quality don’t say that!!!!

Rabbi Levi - ULY Crown St - 5th Grade
March 8, 2014 12:17 pm

A fantastic Rebbi that follows this principle of teaching. He succeeded in teaching his students life-long skills including (but not limited to) opening up a Gemara and understanding it on their own, safrus (the boys wrote Megillas Esther), ta’amei hamikra – my son learned how to “lein” way before his B”M, Jewish history – so important, but much forgotten in the boys’ yeshivos.
If only there were many more Rabbeim like him – and he taught in his humble manor with no fanfare and attention to himself.
Thank you (again)!
Akiva’s mother

Skills skills skills
March 8, 2014 7:10 am

Give a student tools and he is set for life. I wish I would have been given tools at the school I went to in the UK. Perhaps it has changed…

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