Sep 5, 2010
Elected Rov: Rabbi Yossi Braun
Rabbi Braun this week; celebrations for his win, Sunday * photos by Zelig Shaul

40 year-old Blackberry savvy Rabbi Yosef Yeshaya Braun of Sydney is the newly elected third rov of Crown Heights, winning over Rabbi Moshe Bogomilsky by close to 100 votes.

By COLlive reporters in Crown Heights
Photos by Zelig Shaul for COLlive.com


Rabbi Yosef Yeshaya Braun of Sydney has received the most votes --994 to be exact-- in Sunday's election to appoint a third member to the Crown Heights Bais Din (Badatz).

But he won't be learning about the results so fast.

The 40 year-old who has said he'll be using his Blackberry device and the web to connect to the Brooklyn neighborhood's residents, is on a flight back to Australia.

When he lands (in the morning hours of New York) he will be notified that he was elected to a "Rabbonus for life" position, alongside the current senior members Rabbi Avrohom Osdoba and Rabbi Yaacov Schwei.

He won over his main ideological competitor in the race - Rabbi Moshe Bogomilsky, member of Vaad Rabbonei Lubavitch, who has received 896 votes.

Another candidate, Rabbi Emanuel Chaviv, a Rosh Kollel in the Israeli city of Beitar, received only 63 votes.

Rabbi Yossi Braun was born and raised in a family of rabbonim. His grandfather, Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Braun OBM, a renowned rov and posek, authored Shearim Metzuyanim b'Halacha on Kitzur Shulchan Aruch.

His brothers, Rabbi Moshe Shmuel Braun serves as a rov and dayan in Monsey, and Rabbi Avraham Yaakov Braun serves as a mashpia in Mount Kisco, NY.

His supporters have evoked the memory of the late Crown Heights Rabbi Yehuda Kalman Marlow OBM - who had worked together with Braun - as a campaigning tool against Bogomilsky. Large photos of Marlow were hung outside the election station.

Braun has a packed resume, being a 'chozer' reviewer of the Rebbe's sichos, running a Mesivta, teaching in a girls seminary and leading the break-away Tzemach Tzedek community in Sydney.

Although being nominated by Rabbi Schwei (associated with the Messianic group in Chabad), Braun insisted during an election forum that he was an independent.

"If anyone knows who is running my campaign please don't tell me because I will be indebted to them," he said with a smile. His opponents say he knows 'good and well' who they are.

Only after Braun's win, COLlive.com was told about the existence of a campaign headquarters on Kingston Avenue (past Basil Pizza and Wine Bar).

Seen celebrating there were activists associated with Rabbi Schwei: Mendy Hendel, Rabbi Yekutiel Rapp, Chanina Sperlin, Elie Poltorak, Sruli Sandhaus, Yanky Herzog and Yaakov Spritzer.

They were joined by Vaad Hakohol members Zaki Tamir and Fishel Brownstein.

The elections were a result of a Din Torah between the Crown Heights communal leadership to end ongoing disputes that crippled the representative institutions. Monsey Dayan Rabbi Avrohom Rosenberg oversaw the process and the elections.

Rabbi Braun has run on the slate of a young educator who can connect to the many young couples and singles in the community. Some observed he was more of a Mashpia than a Rov, but his supporters said that was his advantage.

One of his first tasks will be forging a working relationship with Rabbis Osdoba and Schwei, almost twice his senior; appoint a CEO to the CHK Kosher supervision; and direct the Gabboim of 770 on how to continue their legal battle over the ownership of the main shul.

And that's just the the first of a long to-do list the new Rov faces as he begins the lifetime position.


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Opinions and Comments
1
lets back the winner
whoever wins we must give him respect and get behind him to promote achdus in our community
(9/5/2010 11:17:52 PM)
2
oh no
i hope brauns x win :)
(9/5/2010 11:20:31 PM)
3
respect
respect is earned!
(9/5/2010 11:20:48 PM)
4
The Real Joe
I hope who ever wins gets at least 53% which would make it very hard for people to have complaints
(9/5/2010 11:22:09 PM)
5
Mazal Tov to our new Mara deasra Horav Broin Shelita
It's beyond any doubt statisticaly that Horav Bruan has won.

Statisticaly there is no way Bogo can win any more.
(9/5/2010 11:23:43 PM)
6
GO RABBI BROIN!
i hope rabbi broin wins!
(9/5/2010 11:25:36 PM)
7
horray
meshichistin win!!!!!! go CH!!!! 50 more years of the Rebbe MH"M at the helm!!!!
(9/5/2010 11:25:55 PM)
8
Update from The O campaign headquarters
They are preparing AVELUS at the O campaign headquarters but Katzman and Reitzes of course vouche to continue fighting anyway.
(9/5/2010 11:26:07 PM)
9
who would have thought...........
it just shows how every vote counts. I voted for braun.
WHOEVER wins will be great for the community.
hatzlacha raba to all of them
(9/5/2010 11:26:24 PM)
10
Projected Loser
CH and Lubavitch... Its great that I do not live there.
(9/5/2010 11:35:28 PM)
11
to # 8
;-)
So far only positive comments
Barouch Hashem!
(9/5/2010 11:37:32 PM)
12
to # 5
his name is not bogo- he was respected by the Rebbe then he surely could be respected by you, if you like it or not.
(9/5/2010 11:37:56 PM)
13
No Loshen Hora
i just had a great thought... imagine there was no loshen hora in any of the comments in this article... maybe Moshiach will come??? Hatzlacha!!!
(9/5/2010 11:38:33 PM)
14
There is a G-d in this world and He is GOOD!
CH didn't deserve to have Rabbi Bogomilsky. He is way too good for them. Those that have felt honored to have him as their Rav, will continue to do so. May Hashem grant him the strength and years to keep on being there for them.
(9/5/2010 11:40:11 PM)
15
simcha in sydney
Wow what a simcha for the sydney shluchim, finally the day has come.
(9/5/2010 11:41:09 PM)
16
didan notzach
this is a great day for the people of crown hts.
hopefuly noone will make trouble
(9/5/2010 11:42:20 PM)
17
Baruch Hashem!!
I am thrilled!
(9/5/2010 11:44:11 PM)
18
Mazal Tov!
There sems to be a clear winner - with real margin. PLEASE LTS PUT AN END TO THIS CHILDISH FIGHTING!!! Lets open a new chapter in Crown Hights.

the whole comunity (almost) voted. Time to begin healing.... Let us work hard to bgin this long process
(9/5/2010 11:44:32 PM)
19
admiring # 7
:) love the comment!
(9/5/2010 11:46:01 PM)
20
to #11
I agree with with you. The Rebbe loved every single jew no matter his title or his backround. How much more so we have to work on our Ahavas Isroel and thus bring the geulah shlema.
We all want it. a ksiva vechasima tova to all
(9/5/2010 11:46:11 PM)
21
No suprise.
CH gets what it deserves....more of the same. Sydney gets a little respite....and Rabbi Bogomilsky will live out his days bshalvah.
(9/5/2010 11:46:35 PM)
22
what a soap opera!
ok, can everyone get a job now!!
(9/5/2010 11:46:57 PM)
23
The Lesson is
That a campaign of pure shmutz works. Mendy Hendel and his cronies learnt from the Obama people. There is nothing that can be better then a dirty libelous campaign. This works in the goyshe world and works in CH too.
G-d help us and i hope Rabbi Braun has the strength to stand up and say no to mendy hendel.
(9/5/2010 11:48:13 PM)
24
didn't he say
didn't katzman say he was going to stay out of politics and asked mechila from all residents?
(9/5/2010 11:48:20 PM)
25
Loss for Sydney
(9/5/2010 11:50:23 PM)
26
From Sydney
We are all thrilled. Some of us are happy for Rabbi Braun and his appointment and others are happy he will no longer be here to surreptitiously undermine the Rebbe and his Shluchim. Everyone wins!
(9/5/2010 11:51:14 PM)
27
Hasty....Hasty
It's not over till it's over.
(9/5/2010 11:53:57 PM)
28
DIDON NOTZACH
(9/5/2010 11:54:35 PM)
29
Re # 24
Did you think he is capable of that?, well you're very naive!
I wonder if he has a new letter prepared regreating his asking mechila
(9/5/2010 11:56:55 PM)
30
Thank you Hashem!
May we all start the year with new hope and energy for Crown Heights.

And may we celebrate Rosh Hashono already in Yerushalayim together with our Rebbe and the full & complete Geulah!
(9/5/2010 11:58:08 PM)
31
Yoni Johnson for Sydney
Don't worry Sydney,
you have a great guy to take over from your own town named Rabbi Yoni Johnson. Grab him wgile he is there for the Deitz barmy!
(9/5/2010 11:58:11 PM)
32
Follow Obama trail
America just voted in a president we knew nothing about.
C.H just did the same thing.
Unfortunate.
(9/5/2010 11:58:34 PM)
33
Mazal Tov!!!
(9/6/2010 12:00:25 AM)
34
Major loss for sydney
Dont worry TT and the emes will perservere
(9/6/2010 12:00:55 AM)
35
Re 31
Rumour is he has a standing offer in Melbourne.
(9/6/2010 12:01:13 AM)
36
to #16
Lets see what your wise comment will be in a half yr. from now. Note comment #26. This is probably in CH's future as well, unfortunately.
(9/6/2010 12:01:18 AM)
37
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hurray!!!!!!!!!!
mazal tov!!!!!!!!!!
moshiach now
(9/6/2010 12:01:56 AM)
38
congratualation
finally r osdoba and r schwei will have their 3rd rav they wanted
(9/6/2010 12:03:09 AM)
39
to 29
One difference: America will be rid of Obama in 2 years. Rabbi Braun will be Rav for the rest of his life...only in CH can you elect someone FOR LIFE without the faintest clue as to who he is. I on the other hand know him personally. And voted for Rabbi Bogomilsky.
(9/6/2010 12:03:30 AM)
40
We want moshiach now
We want moshIach now!
(9/6/2010 12:04:34 AM)
41
Mazel Tov CH
I only hope that this marks a new chapter in our community. As a mother trying to raise children, the nastiness that has ripped through our community for the past 5 years has been devastating. I hope everyone can now keep their negativity to themselves and make this a positive place to raise our families! No more nastiness!
(9/6/2010 12:04:49 AM)
42
Respect Rov
Please allow only respetected comments for the new elected Rabbi Yossi Braun. Thanks
(9/6/2010 12:05:01 AM)
43
Mazal Tov R' Braun
Boruch Hashem!
Mazal Tov!!!!
Yay R' Braun
(9/6/2010 12:05:26 AM)
44
to 39
I guess you don't know Rabbi Bogomilsky very well.
kesiva v'chasima tova!
(9/6/2010 12:06:32 AM)
45
#39
u still have him!!
cuz he won!!!
get over it
now you have to respect him
(9/6/2010 12:07:15 AM)
46
And so the fight continues....
And so the fights continue on for another 10 years. Here come the court cases, the politics, the the divisions, two Beis Dins, left wing, right wing etc....
And the people who put him in will move on Shlichus, leaving us residents to pick up the pieces.
What a pity, what a shambles!
(9/6/2010 12:07:19 AM)
47
Yechi Hamelech Braun won!
Yechi adoneinu moreinu verabeinu melech hamosiach leolam voooooeeed!
(9/6/2010 12:08:38 AM)
48
Lost case
To # 7 Sadly but true.. I will be putting up my home for sale in the very near future, I just can't take it anymore. I am afraid there's no hope for this community or cult! we are living in...

May there be peace.



(9/6/2010 12:08:49 AM)
49
63 or 64?
what happened to chaviv's vote? did one ballot get disqualified, or was this just a mistake in editing?
(9/6/2010 12:09:01 AM)
50
Mazal Tov!
(9/6/2010 12:10:05 AM)
51
track record of honesty
bsd
thank Gd we hv r. Braun
thank Gd...
(9/6/2010 12:11:20 AM)
52
Mazal Tov!
As a voter for R Bogomilsky, i still think its time to move forward and do whats best for the good and achdus of the shchuna.
Hatzlacha rabba Harav Broin
(9/6/2010 12:11:27 AM)
53
oh, sydney
WHAT A LOSS!!!!
NO WORDS!
(9/6/2010 12:15:56 AM)
54
Yossi?
What up with Yossi? His name is Shaya broyn and he was my counselor what seems like only a few years ago in camp... Am I dreaming? Good luck! I guess will have to live for Yechi for the next - - years.. Uch un vei!
(9/6/2010 12:16:29 AM)
55
Boruch Dayan Haemes CH!!!
Mendy Hendel will rule forever!!!!
(9/6/2010 12:16:31 AM)
56
R Braun stood up for the Truth in Sydney and he will do it in CH as well.
(9/6/2010 12:19:40 AM)
57
Follow Rav Osdoba
The voting is over. Let us follow Rav Osdoba's ruling in his response to R. Yossi Marlow. Ein machzikin bimachlokess. Let's put the past behind us and move on.
(9/6/2010 12:19:50 AM)
58
Rabbi O is calling it quits
I heard Rabbi O is going to take over Rabbi Braun position in Australia :-)
(9/6/2010 12:19:55 AM)
59
to #48
where is your home located?
i may be interested in purchasing it
(9/6/2010 12:21:58 AM)
60
mazal tov
MAzal tov. Ch wAnts young ppl. Is ok
(9/6/2010 12:29:05 AM)
61
house buyer-to #48
i may b interested in buying ur house.how can we get together?how much do u want?please post
(9/6/2010 12:32:02 AM)
62
HOPE
Please, Let us give this new Rov a chance to prove himself. He did NOTHING wrong to you, me or anyone in your family.

I voted Rabbi Bogomilsky Shlit"o, but we need to accept these results and give Rabbi Braun a chance to create his own record.

Let us hope and pray that is will be a positive one (for the most part).

Ksiva V'chasima Tova to !!!
(9/6/2010 12:33:41 AM)
63
51% for R. Braun. 46% for R. Bogomilsky. 3% for R Chabib.
Let's give hope a chance. Ksiva VaCHasima Tova!
(9/6/2010 12:34:48 AM)
64
Proves the Anti's wrong
Only one person could have ensured the right Rov wins - The Rebbe Melech HaMashiach.
This election proves the Rebbe is physically alive in a Gashmiyos body. Those who choose to pretend that the Rebbe is no longer PHYSICALLY alive now know the truth!!!
(9/6/2010 12:35:12 AM)
65
he knows!
i was told by a famely member that he knows that he won he checked his emails in cali!
(9/6/2010 12:35:13 AM)
66
s. r.
kol mah d'ovid rachmana l'tav ovid.
there must be a silver lining here somehow.
if anyone sees it, please let me know.
thanks
(9/6/2010 12:35:57 AM)
67
what????????????????????????????????
that meens that CH will become a tzfati place forever

pluss good luck to krintzki and getting 770 or anything els
(9/6/2010 12:36:04 AM)
68
HOPE
The year was 2008 The candidate had youth, hype, charisma, knowledge of media, and a promise of a new beginning. When it all faded, we saw the end by the 2012 elections.
The year is 2010 and history repeated itself. However, this time we are in it for life.......
So, Mazal Tov to Australia and good luck to C.H
(9/6/2010 12:36:24 AM)
69
Yaarich Yomim Al Mamlachto!!!!
(9/6/2010 12:39:06 AM)
70
to 55
Id rather have hendel then hershkop
(9/6/2010 12:42:13 AM)
71
Yechi
Anyone remember what the Rebbe (the same one that spoke about Moshiach(albeit not the pins) had to say about Rabonim leaving their community to be rov in CH
(9/6/2010 12:44:20 AM)
72
To #46
First of all, it was not the "(40 yungeleit) who put him in", rather it was more than half of the votes(almost 1000)!

Secondly, I find it highly laughable to predict that those 40 yungeleit will go on shlichus the next year or so(though I wish them heartfelt success). Anyone familiar with shlichus seeking will confirm that nowadays shlichus is almost impossible statistically to obtain due to the supply/demand model(20-30 positions for hundreds of yungeleit)

B'Virkas Kvisoh Vachasimoh Tovah!

(9/6/2010 12:46:16 AM)
73
to #48
please be so kind and let me know when you put your house up for sale i would love to buy it
(9/6/2010 12:47:32 AM)
74
mazal tov
i hope all of us in crown heights will finally learn to show RESPECT for our rabbonim.
Lets start things going right.
(9/6/2010 12:47:48 AM)
75
I Agree #52 and #59
As one who voted for Rabbi Bogomilsky, I wish a Mazal Tov to Rabbi Braun and wish you the utmost Hatzlacha as the new Rav in the BADATZ CH.. Let us all pull together and unite as a community.
(9/6/2010 12:48:07 AM)
76
We all won
now we have a strong base din, Beseras Hashem the community as a whole, which have all voted together, will go from strenth to strenth,and move forward with Achdus.
(9/6/2010 12:53:18 AM)
77
ahavs yisroelaA
everyone screams rebbe everyone screams we need moshiach if it really meant anything to you then You wiil stop the nasty comments the rebbe stresses ahavas yisroel how can you call your self lubavitch and claim your a chasid of the rebbe when you cant respect your fellow man what are you teaching your children ?
(9/6/2010 12:55:03 AM)
78
Very Happy
This is the best think for Crown Heights
Rabbi Braun will do an amazing job!
(9/6/2010 12:55:54 AM)
79
You know who is the real winner?
Rabbi Pinny Feldman.....
(9/6/2010 12:59:18 AM)
80
Crown Heights resident
Give him a chance, you will be surprised how much he will acheive. The middle ground in the community will learn to respect him, the fringes will be the fringes. K'siva v'Chassima Toivo to all.
(9/6/2010 12:59:55 AM)
81
Azkir Al Hatzion
Hatzlocha Rabbah to Hrab brown. Azkir Al Hatzion.
(9/6/2010 1:00:16 AM)
82
Crown Heights resident
Give him a chance, you will be surprised how much he will acheive. The middle ground in the community will learn to respect him, the fringes will be the fringes. K'siva v'Chassima Toivo to all.
(9/6/2010 1:01:32 AM)
83
Chossid
To # 71, when was the last time you asked the Rebbe a question? To your chagrin there are people who still ask the Rebbe before they make decisions, Rabbi Braun is one of them.
(9/6/2010 1:06:18 AM)
84
they are back
the old trouble makers who were voted out are back .what a pity .
(9/6/2010 1:08:14 AM)
85
RESPECT!
respect your new rov!
(9/6/2010 1:11:41 AM)
86
ahavas yisroel
everyone screams rebbe everyone screams we need moshiach if it really meant anything to you then You wiil stop the nasty comments the rebbe stresses ahavas yisroel how can you call your self lubavitch and claim your a chasid of the rebbe when you cant respect your fellow man what are you teaching your children ?
(9/6/2010 1:13:00 AM)
87
mazel tov
i voted for r' bogomilsky,but mazel tov r' braun we cant wait for you to lead our community!!
(9/6/2010 1:13:25 AM)
88
shliach
This side, that side, their is an aibishter in this world so let us not worry let us go in to the new year besimcha, with optimism, it will be good, a chassidisher yungerman has been elected,
where is the faith in hakbh?
he will no doubt do a good job and will be respected by all those who have derech eretz and teach their children to have derech eretz......
a ksivah vachasimah toivah and lots of love to all
(9/6/2010 1:15:01 AM)
89
biggest loser tonight
herskops

a lesson for all: stay away from them

cadidates they supported from vad hokohol lost
(9/6/2010 1:15:52 AM)
90
Meshichist victory
The Meshichist camp must be thrilled. Crown Heights will now remain a messianist stronghold with one of their own in power. So much for ending the carnage
(9/6/2010 1:18:52 AM)
91
Antis didnít lose
If you really want to break this down as left verses the right wing, I think you will find that the antis power is growing. Since when is 46% of CH linker? Didnít it used to be more like 30% linker, 70% rechter? So in another 5 year or soÖ.
(9/6/2010 1:19:11 AM)
92
Shliach
From Sydney to CH. From one sad place to another.
(9/6/2010 1:23:44 AM)
93
what does a rav have to do with mishichism?
the rabbanim should have nothing to do with yechi, or not. their job is enforcing HALACHA. period. they should not get involved with lunatics on either side- not their domain...Torah, Halacha only.
(9/6/2010 1:33:41 AM)
94
To so called chosid (#82)
Pray tell what did the Rebbe reply? or maybe you have a number I can reach the Rebbe at,or was it at the farbreingin on shabos @ 1:30?
(9/6/2010 1:35:12 AM)
95
Mazal Tov Rabbi Braun
We only know what's good when H'shem shows us what's good.
H'shem controls EVERYTHING.
Amen
Mazal Tov Rabbi Braun.
May all the Brochas of the Rebbe and H'shem fall upon you and your family in abundance.
AMEN
(9/6/2010 1:35:29 AM)
96
Todays Election was a real REFRENDUM - Rabbi O. vs Rabbi S.
Many people had mentioned in the comments here, why should we vote in a 3d rov before the 2 make sholom first.

Similarly others asked that since the 2 can't make sholom, then why not make a vote to see whom the community wants now, Rabbi O or Rabbi S and so we should have the 2 conflicting Rabbonim on the Ballot and let the community decide whom they want.

I have news for you:

Todays Vote actually was a Referendum for the community to decide if they want to Choose Rabbi Schwei over Rabbi Osdoba. It was like a "community Din Torah" for the public to choose the Rav whom they feel is right.

The majority of the community chose the Candidate of Rabbi Schwei.

It's even more than that because even the Rabbi Osdoba team did not get their minority of 46% only with the help of those whom wanted someone who was against the Beis Din altogether period.

Considering that the 46% Bogomilsky got was form people who could care less about any Beis Din period, it means that as far as people who always respected the Badataz,, Rabbi Schwei got TODAY a 99% vote against his opponent Rabbi Osdoba.

This was a REAL REFERENDUM and the results are clear that the vast majority of community favors Rabbi Schwei over Rabbi Osdoba.
(9/6/2010 1:35:49 AM)
97
to # 48
let me know how much your selling for, square foot and location..i am a serios buyer! and if there is parking as well then even if there are only 2 rabonim, i will buy if the price is good...
(9/6/2010 1:36:03 AM)
98
oy vay
hashem ? oy vay! oy vay!
(9/6/2010 1:36:39 AM)
99
hendel
now we see hendel .they hid him and the whole gang. now they come out.just like obama hid rev .wright etc.
(9/6/2010 1:37:13 AM)
100
Rabbi Braun needs to ask Mechila
If Rabbi Braun is serious about healing the community etc, the first thing he has to do is ask Mechila from Rabbi Bogomilsky. The disgraceful way Rabbi Braunís campaign acted, trashing Rabbi Bogomilsky, spreading malicious lies about him accusing him of being responsible for Rabbi Marlows death etcÖwas disgusting, Rabbi Braun didnít put a stop to it during the election, he should at least now apologize for it and then perhaps we can all move on.
(9/6/2010 1:42:45 AM)
101
Der einikel
Why are Chanina and Polterdark so happy, what are they benefiting from the new Rov. BTW, have u noticed Zaki is growing a beard.
(9/6/2010 1:43:38 AM)
102
Predictiom
Within a few days (maybe weeks) Rabbi Osdoba will come out with a detailed and documented psak, showing all the lies that were presented by Broin. He will produce a paper chain that follows the money. The psak will be that he cannot sit on the same seat of dayanus as a shakran and a meshuchad.

It would have been more difficult for Rabbi Schwei to take such a stand, had Bogomilski won, but that is history. And history is not always nice. (Zechor al Tishkach churban shel Amalek shebedoreinu.) Just because it happens does not mean it is good.

Anther prediction: Rabbis krinsky and Shemtov panic and demand that Congregation Lubavitch take out a multi-million dollar insurance package, covering all liabilities from over crowding. It couls even become legal battle with the Fire Department taking out an injuction.
(9/6/2010 1:52:33 AM)
103
no more igros
In an interview some time ago Rav Braun said that one can not use igros for advice only a blessing. Also he said that 770 should be comfortable for everyone to enter. Alternating Shabbos prayers every other Shabbos for each group seems the way to go in 770.
(9/6/2010 2:00:10 AM)
104
embarassing
the pictures of an after party are utterly disgraceful, you elected a rov not a quarterback for a superbowl, ochen vei if the so called leaders of our community behave like these then why do you except anything different from the youth tell Rabbi Broin to start his youth campaign with the children at heart i.e - the people in the pictures here
(9/6/2010 2:00:16 AM)
105
pictures say it all
the hiding winners: mendy hendel, kuti rapp, herzog, spritzer, chanina, shapiro, poltorak, and tzfati e-z pass holders. did someone say change?
(9/6/2010 2:01:10 AM)
106
Give it a few years
Everyone will say: why didn't we vote for Rabbi Bogomilsky.....
(9/6/2010 2:02:47 AM)
107
yay!
finally crown heights gets what it deserves!
(9/6/2010 2:31:00 AM)
108
Elie Poltorak
We're celebrating the accomplishment of the mission we set out on 1 1/2 years ago--the first unilateral elections to the va'ad and the din torah: to reestablish a functioning beis din and kehilla that the Rebbe can be proud of. It's been a long road but B"H, tonight we have reached our goal. Hodu laHashem ki tov, ki l'olam chasdo!
(9/6/2010 2:43:02 AM)
109
Beis Din Power...
There is one very important thing that NOBODY seems to be realizing here. But the Beis Din (all 3 rabbonim) BETTER realize that:
The whole "Power" that this Beis Din has, is the power that WE GIVE them. this Beis Din has no "Legal" or "Official" power. the ONLY power they have is the power of respect and honor that WE GIVE THEM. beyond that they are POWERLESS! they cannot legally force ANYBODY to do ANYTHING. the only "Power" that they have is the power of honor that we give them.
Having said that, this Beis Din (all 3 Rabbonim) BETTER make sure they behave in a way that brings dignity and respect to the Beis Din. because if they dont, have absolutely no power. the whole power they have is the power of respect that we have for them. they have absolutely no "Legal" power.
And it is precisely for that reason that for so many years, people have been able to abuse this Beis Din and atep on them, because they have absolutely no "Legal" power to do ANYTHING.
They are not the "Congress"
They are not the "Senate"
They are not the "City Council"
They have absolutely no Legal power
So if THIS Beis Din wants to retain Any power (which is only the power of respect from the community to them) they BETTER act in a way which brings dignity and honor to the beis Din. otherwise they will be as powerless as the previous Beis Din
(9/6/2010 3:02:10 AM)
110
respect
a little introspection please
did anyone ever think that the inability to respect a rav,
comes from the inability to respect oneself.
yes.
that is the issue.
you dont have to think too hard to get it.
just pause for a moment and tune in.
find a place within that you respect.
probably there somewhere,
keep digging to you find it.
now you are in a spiritual place
and you find think before posting insulting comments that have no value.
(9/6/2010 3:08:48 AM)
111
Finally Crown Heights can now move FWD.
A Young dynamic 38 yr old Rabbi/Dayan that is not sunken into any previous politics will be much more than a breath of fresh air
Mazal tov CH..
(9/6/2010 3:11:42 AM)
112
Hatzlocha Rabba Rabbi Braun
(9/6/2010 3:16:53 AM)
113
MAZEL TOV!
i accepet the results, and hope to he works with everyone!
mazel tov!
(9/6/2010 3:27:42 AM)
114
MAZAL TOVE TO ALL''
(9/6/2010 3:58:03 AM)
115
best result
the community has spoken,good always wins over bad in the end.Lets hope and pray they will get rid of of the bullys that roam free in CH.Justice has been served
(9/6/2010 4:02:00 AM)
116
a sad day for lubavitch
just when we think things are getting better & moshiach is almost here, we see more darkness
CH just elected a rov who:
1. has no smicha
2. never sat in a beis din
3. has limited experience of rabbonus
4. involved in a fight with the Rebbe's shluchim in sydney
5. will continue to fight the Rebbe's mosdos, Merkaz & Aguch
6. will support terror and other activities in 770

and did someone say that this was a good decision?
(9/6/2010 4:04:41 AM)
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no 96 sheker
no 96 your statistical analysis is ridiculous! It has no basis in fact
(9/6/2010 4:15:55 AM)
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Sydney prsn
WAHHHOOOOOOO!! :)
(9/6/2010 4:20:11 AM)
119
the Rebbe's sicho
On Shabbos Mishpotim 5747 the Rebbe said, that after a
Rov is elected, all those that opoosed his election, are now
obligated to accept his as their MORO D'ASRO with all
that relates to this. Why no one in all the comments
failed to quote this sicho kedosho
(9/6/2010 5:21:57 AM)
120
Berel
I really fail to see why some are upset with mendy Hendel? If anyone ran a nasty negetive campaign, it was Katzman and his crew. Can you imagine how much money they spent? Every five minuites I had a telephone call, all day long and when I mentioned in the shul where I daven (and Katzman davens there too) that I will not vote for Rabbi Bogomilsky, you should have seen the verbal attacks and the "looks".

So this isn't called terror, but if mendey hendel excercizes his democratic rights, some hate him. I can only add my two sense, there seems to be a lot of anger out there and a lot of jealousy. Its time for the children to grow up.

One more word about the elections. May all Jewish communities all over the world allow CH elections to be an example. No one hit anyone and each person (except for a very few) respected each for whatever way they would vote.
(9/6/2010 6:20:37 AM)
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so so sad
What a crying shame. We let a man like that win. He caused so much machlokes in Sydney (I know, I grew up there) that they just want him out. He is backed by the party that spews hatred and filth. He is a young guy which means we are now stuck with him as rov for a very long time. He has absolutely no knowledge of "the fifth shulchan aruch", and he has no tziyur of a rov.

I am so so dissaapointed by our community. This is another nail in the coffin of our future. Just keep an eye out and look for more kids going off the derech etc. This result is going to breed more divisiveness, more extremism and more hate.

It is a sad sad day for Crown Heights, what a pity to be starting a new year like this.
(9/6/2010 6:26:42 AM)
122
Let's move on...
and go back to our Teshuvah. Whoever doesn't like it can move out. The people have spoken.
(9/6/2010 7:33:22 AM)
123
Dark
This will set crown heights back 20 years.

If you see who is celebrating you will understand. Funny that none of those people publicly supported him. I really pray this can be undone.
(9/6/2010 7:46:41 AM)
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THE REAL WINNERS ARE]]]]]
The Shluchim... Now they Will continue to have Rabi Bogomilsky to call at all times for answers as he will have the time... The real losers are CH for one of two reasons]]]]
1. Rabbi Braun decides to be a man of peace, do you think anyone in the above pictures will allow that?
2. Rabbi Braun decides to side with the people in the above pictures, and most of the people that voted because they bealived the lies that were told will stop listening and believing in the system.

Winners; shluchim
Losers; CH
(9/6/2010 7:47:49 AM)
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A Woman
Let's make a new Bais Din!
(9/6/2010 7:52:12 AM)
126
MAY G-D HAVE MERCY ON CRWON HEIGHTS
Signed:
The other Half of Crown heights, and.........
(9/6/2010 7:53:19 AM)
127
My home is already up for sale
and I've reduced the price. Anyone interested, you can find me, I'm on one of the the best blocks of CH. I'm ready to sell TODAY. Call my realtor.
(9/6/2010 7:53:56 AM)
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to#106
don't think it will take years to see the mistake. They'll know by end of tishrei
(9/6/2010 7:59:42 AM)
129
agree with #104
its about time some of the "children" grow up and set an example for the younger generation
(9/6/2010 8:05:18 AM)
130
WHO IS THIS ABOUT???
Why focus on Rapp, Hendel, Hertzog, etc. etc. Isn't this about Crown Heights, the Rebbe's Shchuna? Time to forget about Hendel, and deal with something for real and hopefully Rabbi Broin will deal with us (as he said) and not take sides with ANYONE.
(9/6/2010 8:10:14 AM)
131
and i thought braun was neutral !!
Mendy Hendel, Rabbi Yekutiel Rapp, Chanina Sperlin, Elie Poltorak, Sruli Sandhaus, Yanky Herzog and Yaakov Spritzer.
(9/6/2010 8:33:57 AM)
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to number 5
rabbi Ozdoba is and always will be our morah deasra!!!
its disrespectful to call a rov who came in later than rabbi ozdoba with that title!
I already see new machlokes games coming along.
Rabbi Braun, do not let, mendy hendel or any of the CH bullies manipulate you please, if you really care about restoring peace to our community. please i beg you its pikuach nefesh.
(9/6/2010 8:43:30 AM)
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to #97
You may want our place. Call Shoshanna Tal, our realtor. She'll tell you all about it. We're out of here as fast as we can. We didn't leave a good life to end up in this bog of despair.
(9/6/2010 8:43:33 AM)
134
WOW!
Didn"t THE REBBE say that the rabonim of Crown Heights should be from Crown Heights?????
Who changed the rules?????
Obviously THE REBBE knew this time would come and he gave us the rules BEFORE.
(9/6/2010 8:44:44 AM)
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to # 64
what r u shlepping the Rebbe into your personal agenda.
come back in 6 mos. and see what your wisdom says then.
(9/6/2010 8:51:23 AM)
136
Question
The CH community should follow the example of many other kreizin who split when it became apparent that they will not be able to coexist. There are two satmars? For all intents and purposes there are two Lubavitch's. Let a new community emerge that rejects the messianic cult, appointing their own Rabbonim, and then each will follow his authority. There is simply no way that 46% of CH that voted for R' Bogomilsky will be subjected to the ideological leanings of the meshichistin.
(9/6/2010 8:56:17 AM)
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to number 7

Everyone will say: why didn't we vote for Rabbi Bogomilsky...
(9/6/2010 8:57:38 AM)
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Lucky Sidney
Nebach on CH
(9/6/2010 9:01:02 AM)
139
Negative campaigns
The only thing that really makes me wonder about our community is we talk about assimilation of how our children are becoming more and more like the goyim. But the issue is that they learn from their parents. How can a Rav who is suppose to go and paskin items for the community when he runs shmear campaigns. Is that not a form of Loshon Hara? How can we listen to people who talk Loshon Hara? This is why I feel community is assimilating.When politicians run for office they have to deal with negative campagining because the only way they get what they want is to pull someone down to achieve their goal. Why can a candidate for Rav or Vaad Hakol go out and campaign without putting someone else down? It is sad that this is where us a frum jewish people are coming to? I am not saying who should and who should not have won because for me it does not matter due to the fact I probably will never use them anyway. I just dislike the fact that they had to do something negative to gain something positive.
(9/6/2010 9:04:41 AM)
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to #89
I am (was?) a Hershkop. I get along with Shomrim. Both me & my husband say Yechi.

Get a life and practice some achdus. Then maybe Moshiach will come.
(9/6/2010 9:12:49 AM)
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Surfs Up @ Bondi Beach
Hey Crown Heights, you've all got your knickers in a knot about nothing
I wonder if Braun knows what he got himself into!! He might one day regret leaving the calm of Sydney!
It seems like YOU Crown Heights are the centre of Machlokes & Motzi Shem Ra. The comments here speak for itself!
NONE - not one of you Crown Heightsers have a clue about Sydney Kehilla life. There is no politics and there is no Machlokes. Sun, fun, sand, beach :)
Frankly Crown Heights..Sydney doesn't give a toss!
(9/6/2010 9:17:02 AM)
142
SHLOIME FREUNDLICH
a darkness has come to the land
(9/6/2010 9:20:59 AM)
143
a respectable rav!
bring Rabbi Heller back!
(9/6/2010 9:29:55 AM)
144
KSVCH"T
CH is clearly divided (almost) down the middle.
Which is amazing since it shows B"H how strong the "weaker" side is.
May Hashem give you Koach to continue your good work.
May we merit the Geula Shlaima B'Karov Mamosh
KSVCH"T
(9/6/2010 9:30:20 AM)
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To #66, 88, 104 & 105
Put your comments together and this is what you get: The silver lining explanation you requested, because I see it loud and clear.
Of course there is an Aibeshter in this world, and everything is for the good. Lubavitch has not fallen low enough yet. The darkest black before the goodness of complete light, has yet to unfold. The Vaad that stood for mesirah (including on some of the founding institutions of CH, which help SO MANY), won this election - look at their sickening smiling faces as they party with the bottle of Smirnoff (och un vei to the leadership!). Them and those behind them with the $$$ will continue to sink Lubavitch as a whole and CH in particular.
Only then will we wake up and demand Ad Mosai - and hopefully still have time to deserve goodness and kindness, and a dignified Lubavitch community the world over.
Meanwhile we have to wait for the silver lining.
The only one that got it so far is Rabbi Bogomilsky and his wonderful Rebbetzin. They didn't need this position!!!!!
(9/6/2010 9:35:34 AM)
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Yosef Katzman
I know that I wrote publicly that you won't hear from me on the politics. But I hope that in the spirit of Selichos you'll forgive me if I speak just this one time.

Congratulations Crown Heights, again just about 2000 strong voted and we elected a new Rav, Harav Yosef Yeshaya Braun Shlita, lets welcome him with a hearty Mazal Tov and all the Brachos and let's wish him the most of Hatzlocha in his new role, and pray that the nightmare for our community is now over, and we should continue on to march forward with heads held high towards a New Year of peace and Geula.

Yosef Katzman
(9/6/2010 9:37:25 AM)
147
there goes the neighborhood
while rabbi braun may be a great torah scholar. any affiliation with mendel hendel, will lead to his downfall.
(9/6/2010 9:47:09 AM)
148
oy
i feel so bad for r' chaviv! he shouldnt have run in the first place
(9/6/2010 9:56:50 AM)
149
that is true!!!!!!!!!!
nabach!!!!!!!!!
(9/6/2010 9:57:01 AM)
150
Mazel Tov Rabbi Braun and CH
This is a great victory for CH. Rabbi Braun will lead the community to the guelah shlaima.
We are so excited. This will breathe new life (chayos) into the young in CH.
(9/6/2010 9:57:07 AM)
151
#96 Rabbi Schwei against Rabbi Osdoba?! what?!
what a bizzare statement you made. How could you Rabbi Schwei be against Rabbi Osdoba? is this the respect a Rov voted it by the kohol years ago, without any questions... brochos from the rebbe, etc. etc. etc... and yet, shcwei is against him... and yet people voted in support of that.????? is this what this is all about. what a grob yung!
(9/6/2010 10:05:27 AM)
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out-of-towner
excuse me, i naively thought it was election for the rov, not a political issue. are you saying that rabbonim are influenced by political considerations and not by daas torah? what kind of message are these comments sending to young people? what a cinical group of people! the rav was elected by the majority and from now on he must be respected. all the problems of young people start with disrespect for authority. stop loshon horah, it's erev rosh hashana. a gut yor to all yidden, may it bring peace.
(9/6/2010 10:14:26 AM)
153
Another Prediction
Rabbi Braun wil be moving into the house on Eastern Parkway - the one with the paved parking in front.
His name will suddenly appear on the title, but he will not know that. Nor will he know whose house it was/is.
(9/6/2010 10:25:30 AM)
154
The first shayla for RB
Is a person permitted to call the NYFD to come and approve the seatiing arrangements for 770 on Yamim Noraim?
(9/6/2010 10:27:47 AM)
155
A SIMPLE FACT
The mishichistim are a majority in Crown Heights
(9/6/2010 10:32:03 AM)
156
First shayla for RB? No
The first shayla will be: In Fogelman's interview he said that eveyone should be comfortable in 770. F let it stick. The shayla is HOW?
Perhaps the advisers Meress Marssena Memmuchan to Ahaasuerus are here in a gilgul to help with that.
(9/6/2010 10:32:44 AM)
157
To #96: Braun is not a R schwei double stamp
To those who think every vote for R. Braun is nothing more than a show of support for R. Schwei, it's not! It's a show of support for R. Braun and I think he is independent enough to regard it as such. All 3 Rabbanim will understand: we voted for a committee of 3,not of 2.
(9/6/2010 10:34:08 AM)
158
lets not look at this as a win lose situation
we are all in this together
new beginning new hope
A rav is someone who will be ther ofr everyone whatwas past is past now Rabbi Braun is someone new with a a comittiment to us all for the future
(9/6/2010 10:49:19 AM)
159
i am shocked and saddened that ti see meshichasts partying
why a the bochrim involved and partying
i am not a fan of any of those who ran but i hope rabbi braun moderates his moshiach position otherwise i can have no respect for this rabbi. worried worried worried when i see moshichistan parting like its 1999
(9/6/2010 10:53:44 AM)
160
Distraught Crown Heights Resident
We've all been duped. This is a mekach toois. He just received Smicha (note that there's no date on his Smicha paper) and we now here that HE HAS NO DAYONUS!!!.It seems that Sydney was really sending us what they wanted to get rid of. I voted for R' Braun and if I would of known I would of never voted for him. WE NEED NEW ELECTIONS!!!
(9/6/2010 11:03:39 AM)
161
remember
Rabbi Bogomilsky doesnít need to win, hes already a winner. Anybody who has Rabbi Bogomilsky as a Rov is already a winner.

Rabbi Bogomilsky was a Rov Yesterday, is a Rov Today and will still be a Rov Tomorrow.
(9/6/2010 11:06:16 AM)
162
Prediction
Rabbi Osdoba is not a team player.

By nature, Rabbi Osdoba just can't do it. It's not Rabbi Osdoba's fault. He just doesn't have it within him to be a Team Player and to be BOTEL to a majority of the Badatz.

He will likely quit the Beis Din like a sore looser.

Since Bogomilsky heads the Vaad RA-BONEY Lubavitch, I am sure he can find some clerical job for his ruining mate, who lost his unilateral control of his CHK now and he also lost his "badatz" dictatorship now.

No more "one man show" in the Badataz.

Until now it was a farce, where 1 man took away the community_owned_CHK and made a family Melave_Malka out of the CHK, where he alone, as "a 1 man show", decides if we drink bugs in the water or have non-Lubavitcher Shochtim to do our Shechita etc.
(9/6/2010 11:14:57 AM)
163
Crown Height's Community
What a sad reflection of this community! Who votes in a guy who has been stuck in Sydney who has never sat on a Bais Din and who makes machlokes in whatever he gets involved in! Woe to this community that had a chance to begin to move forward and now will move into the Braun arena of Machlokes till the end!!! Shame on whoever is responsible for this result!!!!
(9/6/2010 11:18:52 AM)
164
Mazal Tov Rabbi Marlow.
The VOTE I casted for R. Braun was in reality a vote for R. Marlow. BH your honor was upheld yesterday.
(9/6/2010 11:23:03 AM)
165
to # 156
It goes like this:

A crook yesterday, a crook today and a crook tomorow.
(9/6/2010 11:29:55 AM)
166
I stay out of politics
rather focus on learning
i know politics is a reality
finally hitting me what a sad reality it is
and right here in the Rebbe's Shchuna.
It was nice being a blind baal teshuva for a while
i thought anyone who has chassidus and the Rebbe in their life obviously would be running their life on a "higher grade of fuel."
how unfortunate to see you all be surrounded by jewels,
only to pass them by blindly.
we are only as rich as we allow ourselves to be.
we have available so much
yet...
you all remain self centered, egotistical, status seeking, empty people, who dont know what the meaning of 'taking responsibility for your lives.
this is partly demonstrated in 770. The noise of chatter while Rabbi Glukowsky spoke 2 shabbosim ago was disgraceful. why? ask yourself how you could talk when a rov - especially of this calibre is speaking to the Kehila on Shabbos during the Rebbe's minyan.
DISGRACEFUL.
(9/6/2010 11:32:24 AM)
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To #134
What Nonsense?? The Rebbe never said that the ch rabbonim should be from crown heights!! Proof: The Rebbe told R' Dvorkin to leave pitzburg to be the Rov in ch!! So dont say things before checking out if its true...
(9/6/2010 11:38:14 AM)
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To # 151
You have it backwards.

The breakdown of the machlokes between the 2 Rabbonim was as follows:

Rabbi Osdoba had unilateral power as a 1 man show, before Rabbi Schwei was elected and after the community elected Rabbi Schwei because they did not want a "1 man show" of Rabbi Osdoba ALONE - then Rabbi Osdoba REFUSED to be a Team Player and Rabbi Osdoba refused to POWER_SHARE with his fellow equal newly elected Rav.

Rabbi Schwei was fighting for EQUAL POWER as Shulchan Aruch Demands and as the community mandated.

Rabbi Osdoba was fighting to retain his unilateral power and have his own 3 hand picked people whom he can fire (if the don't listen to him) because he hand-appointed his 3 cronies 1)Segal 2)Reitport 3)Zirkind.

Unilateral dictatorship lost and our 3d rav now means that Rabbi Schwei gets what he wanted which is what HASHEM wants TRUE DEMOCRACY in the Badataz.

True Democracy in the Badatz what the Rebbe wants and it is what the community chose and is the opposite of Katzamn, Osdoba, Hershkop and Reitzes were fighting for.

Democracy WON and Dictatorship Lost.

Until now Osdoba was a Dictatorship since he refused to be a team player.

Now Osdoba will have no choice but to either shape up and follow Shulchan Aruch, or be shown the door as Rabbi Rosenberg's Psak Din spells it out precisely in these words.
(9/6/2010 11:40:09 AM)
169
Democracy Won and Dictorship lost, This Election
Democracy won in C.H. on Sunday.

All the prior Baaley Machlokes have been issued Pink Slips, by the voting community.

Anyone have any new jobs for the new unemployed Baaley Machlokes, who are now out of business, since Democracy in the Badataz has now won over the team who favored single handed Dictatorship in the Badataz until now?
(9/6/2010 11:44:09 AM)
170
I Am a Rabbi Bogomilsky voter
We lost B/C we nominated A rabbi with way to much baggage
Most of the people in my shul said that they voted against Braun, not FOR Rabbi Bogomilsky.
(9/6/2010 11:46:22 AM)
171
BHBH
Baruch Hashem
Regardless of who we voted for
Lets give peace and the future and young, fresh blood a chance.
Rabbi Braun, hatzlacha raba, we are rooting for you and we can't wait to see what changes are in store...
(9/6/2010 11:51:44 AM)
172
Sydney
As a former Sydney person (lived there most of my life) we will surely miss Rabbi Braun. He has done very good work with young couples and even more and better work with the youth. I am one of the youth that he has saved and if it were not for Rabbi Braun, I would have looked like many of the youth today in CH.
People talk and have no idea what they are saying. If Rabbi Braun will continue working with teenagers and newly married couples, he will change the scene in CH. Furthermore, reading many of the above posts, shows how low some have fallen, instead of respect for someone who can learn more and who dedicated his life to Torah and not to more and more money, these posts are from people who have no future and no past. But if you are smart, forget what anyone around you is saying, get a life with Rabbi Braun and it will make you into a new person.
(9/6/2010 12:42:37 PM)
173
Dont Understand ?
I do'nt understand exactly why they are celebrating in the pictures is about. A Rov is an impartial person who sets down Halachic rulings so unless some of these guys are getting some kind of Kickbacks or something what exactly are they so happy about !?
(9/6/2010 1:02:56 PM)
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To Yosef katzmen
Iím vary impressed with you, even though you didnít what you wanted you are still welcoming Rabbi Braun with a smile.

Just the fact the Rabbi Braun gat elected is making a big difference I Crown Heights.
(9/6/2010 1:03:18 PM)
175
Lechaim R.Braun
Lechaim R.Braun - R.Braun for life! BePashtus
(9/6/2010 1:38:16 PM)
176
To #173
They are celebrating because Braun will bring an end to Machlukas in Crown Heights and we finally have a good and honest Bais Din
(9/6/2010 2:18:58 PM)
177
Why Celebrate the outcome of the Election?
Is something wrong with this picture?

No, absolutely not!

Something is wrong with YOU if you see anything wrong, with celebrating, any winner, of any election.

This was the most important election (the only LIFETIME election), for the most prestigious elected position of our entire community.

The winer is not someone of "this team" nor of "that team".

The winner is, of ALL THE VOTERS united, who collectively (by majority vote), all jointly in a united effort to democratically chose their elected choice.

No matter who the winner may be, the only reason anyone can possibly not rejoice is only if something is wrong with them and they refuse to embrace the results of democratic process.

The question is not why this person or why that person WAS celebrating.

The Real Question is why didn't we see this person or that person smiling and celebrating and why wasn't he dancing from joy that we now have a democratically elected Beis Din of 3.

The only ones who didn't sing and dance from joy were the SORE LOSER'S who refuse to accept the democratic election process.

If there was a "joint party" where both "teams" danced together, then no one would question "why are you so happy. Then it would be considered politically OK to rejoice?

So in effect there is nothing wrong with being happy after the election is finally over and we have the results we all wanted - a democratically elected Rav.

The only thing wrong with this picture is WHY WASN'T Reitzes, Katzman, Hershkop and Osdoba dancing too?
(9/6/2010 2:36:05 PM)
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to #162 and others
you got it all confused. its till remains a one man show- the Mendel Hendel show with his agents. wake up to the coffee.
(9/6/2010 2:40:03 PM)
179
ya ya ya yes
yes my wish is coming :) :) :) i am so happy
(9/6/2010 2:41:51 PM)
180
Life Sentence
I doubt his beard will stay that color much longer. Mazal Tov.
(9/6/2010 2:44:35 PM)
181
oid po'om!
another rabbi, another fail... oy yidden!
lets learn from our faults, lets be beyachad in our choices. we are making a milchomoh over just gashmios.
(9/6/2010 2:47:38 PM)
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to #123
Halevai this would set us back 20 years. I seem to remember things were MUCH better then.
(9/6/2010 2:52:08 PM)
183
Mazal Tov!
Respect!
(9/6/2010 2:54:34 PM)
184
For Life
This is not Democratic
(9/6/2010 3:01:48 PM)
185
to 172- Sydney
Wow!! Thank you for sharing.
Rabbi Braun also helped me personally in Sydney, and I am so excited for this new chance for peace in Crown Heights!
(9/6/2010 3:08:24 PM)
186
celebration
to # 177 and all others celebrating the triumph a the democratic process I say : show me the pictures of the same guys celebrating the outcome of the CHJCC (first round).
(9/6/2010 3:11:49 PM)
187
I spent time in sydney
Rabbi Shaya Broyn, is Man with principals and standards, and I don't think he will bend to Mendy Hendel, but as of right now his standards r on the meshichist side, let's hope he sees the the picture and trys to please everyone, and be a truly independent, because he's a geshmake guy, who stood up to his views and eventualy sydney's machlokas which he was in middle of, went away and became a reality for the sydneysider's and they are basicaly living in peace, so let's try to look to the future with optimism, and give him a chance, and nomore bad talking because then there is never a chance of moving past the arguements, live and let live and from the words of rodney king "can't we all just along" and I may not be a meshichist but just give the Rov time to be a Rov and if everyone can just be open minded to other peoples views, that may just be the last that brings moshiach
Gut gebencht yahr!
(9/6/2010 3:14:49 PM)
188
Not recognisng that the "Election_RESULTS" are "HASHEMs_DOING", is outright, total Kfira, plain and simple!
Did anyone forget that it is Hashem who controls everything?

In the election process we follow Hashems command to us and his will, that we should choose our Rav, the way Hashem wants us to, via democratic elections.

The result of the election however, is ONLY the results which Hashem wants.

There is nothing that people can do, "even to vote someone in" unless it is G-d's choice that this be the result of the election.

G-d HIMSELF has chosen Rabbi Braun, to be the outcome of our election.

Anyone who has an issue with the outcome of the election or anyone who thinks it was a bad choice, is disagreeing with HASHEMS CHOICE or not recognizing that the "Election_RESULTS" are "HASHEMs DOING" which is outright, total Kfira, plain and simple!

Anyone who learned, even the Aleph Beis of Chassidus, understands that.
(9/6/2010 3:19:12 PM)
189
ess tee
any way you slice it a majority of the people who care anything about this election and voted, voted for a certain man.

so if you voted and your man lost, take it like a man. don't bad mouth the results or process.

i, for one, could not care less, since the whole concept appears to me like a golden calf replacing moses. ch and lubav have fundamental spiritual and theological problems that will not be resolved by any tribunal or democratic process.

but i do welcome the democratic aspect as far as the social aspect - i respect your right to vote your own leader and follow him. just make sure to respect mine and stay out of my 4 amos.

i happen to live in a neighborhood called ch, but i don't "belong to" any community or religioius group here.
(9/6/2010 3:24:31 PM)
190
I LIKE!

IF U DONT LIKE CH

MOVE TO SYDNEY!!!!!!!
(9/6/2010 3:42:07 PM)
191
Tax?!
Who is going to pay the FULL TIME Rov's salary? He has 11 children, right? He is suppose to be working full time for the Beis Din, right? He has to move and come here...I geuss S.B. Drizin will lay out the money, but do you think that will go on forever? Oh try taxing the Jewish residents of CH see where you go with that. With all the division and strife I don't see much fund raising oppurtunities here. Bogomilsky would not have these problems.
(9/6/2010 4:04:46 PM)
192
Kol Hakavod to Yosef Katzman #146
For demonstrating respect and class for the electoral process. When you hope for one person to win and the other one does, you still have to respect the other one. That's the idea of an election.

If you would have wanted your candidate to be respected, so should you respect to other candidate.

It is for the BEST of this Kehila for the Rabbonim to be respected, for the Beis Din to be strong and for the Machlokes to end.

KVCT
(9/6/2010 4:11:00 PM)
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To #188
Please acquire a good understanding of Chassidus, before you go live with your ignorant preaching.

Yes, Hashem knew that R' Braun would win, but he gave THE CHOICE into the hands of the Anash of CH.

So yes, for those of our Anash who feel that R' Bogomilsky should have won, they have a legitimate complaint to those who voted for R' Braun.

This, sir, is the Alef Bais of Chassidus.

P.S. If I choose to do an Aveira C"V, is that also "Hashem's Ratzon"? After all, I wouldn't do it if Hashem didn't want me to! ----- or would I?

Know the answer to THAT question? Good! Now apply it to your silly comment.
(9/6/2010 4:33:14 PM)
194
thank you
for posting ALL the pictures of ALL the "winners"
(9/6/2010 4:42:13 PM)
195
Sorry COL
Sorry COL but you got it wrong, it's iPhone savvy not Blackberry, HE HAS AN iPHONE!!!!
(9/6/2010 5:01:03 PM)
196
to 193
i think the aleph bais of chassidus is loving your fellow jew.
your post was not so loving :(
afterall....
he didnt mean to be silly
did he
but now you made him feel silly....

look in the mirror
maybe you see a silly person there??
THAT is chassidus.

(9/6/2010 5:07:27 PM)
197
To all silly people
How about everyone tries not to be silly?
(9/6/2010 5:43:09 PM)
198
To # 193 and to # 196
You are both Amey Haratzim in Chassidus and # 188 is actually 100% correct.

See the Rebbe's Sicha of Lech Lecha in Likutey Sichos Chelek Hey (entire sicha but especially) Page # 66 and onwards.
(9/6/2010 5:49:40 PM)
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Rabbonim
It behooves the Rabbonim and Shluchim who wrote eloquent support letters for Rabbi Bogomilsky to now write eloquent Mazal Tov letters supporting the winning Rov. Silence from these Rabbonim can be misinterpreted...and lead Ch'v to chaos
(9/6/2010 6:35:16 PM)
200
NEW numbers
Total voters: 1992

Rabbi Braun - 1004 - 51%
Rabbi Bogomilsky - 897 - 46%
Rabbi Chaviv - 64 - 3%

13 - Posel ballots
13 - challenged ballots
1 - ballot went missing
(9/6/2010 9:33:01 PM)
201
a word to the wise, and wisdom to everyone
be normal. remember your manners. remember Torah and mitzvos. Move on, keep moving forward.
He sounds good, and he looks very bright.
(9/6/2010 11:11:06 PM)
202
Moving forward
C'mon people. You have the third rov, now MOVE ON!! Start rebuilding the shechunoh and make it a cohesive community that will be lesheim ulesiferess.
Enough is enough.!!
If Moshiach were to come and read some of the disparaging remarks here, he would be most embarrased. Everyone! have a Shonoh Toivoh begashmiyus uberuchniyus gam yachad!!
(9/6/2010 11:30:41 PM)
203
go crackberry!
may it be the year of smart-phones and smart rabbis
(9/6/2010 11:35:46 PM)
204
Now I know
So now it is clear that the community as a whole does support all of this nonsense from Mendy Hendel to the tzfatim and any body who make as if this is not supported by the community is in denial. We han an open and free election and the tzfatim won so I give up. I'll be moving out pretty soon.
(9/7/2010 12:17:22 AM)
205
Gdaymate
If i was to take the combined brain power of all the masses of morons who comment on this website, especially in regards to †the elections, it wouldnt come close to 1% of the amazing intelligence that makes Rabbi Braun who he is.
He is a kind, caring, chasidisheh rov and someone who beleive it or not, did not cause any machlokes in sydney. He is a peace loving individual who does not label anyone, but rather loves and tollerates all jews equally.
I have had the plesure of knowing Rabbi Braun for many years and have no doubt that he will be a great rov for Crown Heights. Residents of Crown Heights please stop your immature bickering and give him the chance he rightfully deserves!!
(9/7/2010 1:44:21 AM)
206
is that chanina????????????????
on the front picture and others?
(sure looks different)
(9/7/2010 2:35:40 AM)
207
Nasty Comments are not from Crown Heights
To 205. The nasty comments are not from members of Crown Heights. They are from out of towners. (perhaps they pose as Crown Heighters. Comments are anonymous) The Crown Heighters elected Rabbi Braun and are very happy.
(9/7/2010 12:09:29 PM)
208
ahh!
rabbi braun gets 200+ comments...

uber hamaaseh hu ha-ikar
(9/7/2010 6:10:06 PM)
209
Sam from Sydney
Rav Braun is special. He is a wonderful tzaddik.
Rabbi Feldman supporeted him as he is happy to see Rav Braun leave.
Sydney will miss him.
(9/8/2010 2:56:13 AM)
210
Feel bad
Dont live in crownehights, dont really know whats going on but i feel bad for rabbi chaviv.......
(9/12/2010 8:16:08 PM)
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