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Dealing With a Shadchan

Shidduchim SOS: Chicago Shadchan Rabbi Moishe Raitman has valuable tips for a successful shidduch experience: The do's and don'ts in dealing with a shadchan and what every parent can expect from them. Full Story

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to #4
August 6, 2010 6:44 pm

uh huh

Chabadmatch empowering parents/singles
July 21, 2010 9:53 am

Chabadmatch enables parents/singles to do limited searches. Instead of only relying on a Shadchan to contact me, or running after Shadchanim, I can do limited searces on the site. I will not know who the single is, but have an idea of what kind of person they are. If I am interested i can contact that single’s shadchan, or any shadchan on the site. This worked very well for me.

To #41
July 21, 2010 9:49 am

Chabadmatch is actually a one time fee of $18, it is not an annual fee.

TO #50
July 19, 2010 8:10 am

Let’s write. We’re looking for our sons as well.

to #32
July 19, 2010 8:06 am

MAYBE WE SHOULD BE IN CONTACT WITH ONE ANOTHER. WE’RE LOOKING FOR A SHIDDUCH FOR OUR SON…….

to #44
July 16, 2010 6:17 pm

So basically this exclusive for Californian’s??? What if I live in NY and I don’t want my profile roaming around lubavitch?? Why can’t people set up their friends or wives friends with husbands friends??? Times have changed and people need to network, don’t say you care if in reality you don’t. For example you come to a lichayim or wedding why can’t people be sensitive enough to ask their spouse to look out for the young bachlor/ettes and try to set them up, I think that would solve a big part of the problem. As well if let’s say the… Read more »

TO THE BOYS
July 16, 2010 1:38 am

BE A MAN
SEE A GIRL YOURE INTERESTED IN?
FOLLOW UP!

to #48
July 16, 2010 12:00 am

settle settle you sound bitter. consider a session of coaching to relax YOU!

to number 48
July 15, 2010 10:31 pm

youre a bigshot!
RABBI raitman has helped MANy people and just because he didnt show off by writing it out for you- you jump to conclusions!

att #43
July 15, 2010 7:42 pm

On chabadMatch, you CAN do your own search, but you don’t get the persons name and complete profile. You get a brief description if you do a search yourself and then you need to contact a shadchan to get the rest of the profile.

Disappointed
July 15, 2010 7:13 pm

I put my child on chabad match and never heard from anyone. I also gave money to a shadchan for one of my children and was offered NO names at all. Only if I had a name, then they would contact them for me and try to push it. A year later when I had another child , and I called I was told that each child was another fee. So being desperate, I paid again and again and still No names. After nudging finally gave me a list of boys names with no info on them and asked me… Read more »

Bla bla bla
July 15, 2010 6:05 pm

There is a lot of talk about how parents should deal with shadchanim, but how about girls and boys themselves? Many girls and boys don’t want to rely only on their parents or don’t want to push the responsibility on to their parents and can use tips on how to deal with shadchanim themselves.

People who are prepared to take responsibility for their own affairs and don’t leave it for others should be commended and helped.

chabadmatch does work
July 15, 2010 5:49 pm

My daughter-in-law was listed on Chabadmatch and that’s where we found her!
BTW, how many shidduchim did Mr. Raitman actually make? Talk is wonderful, but what’s his talent in this area?

Very Satisfied Parent
July 15, 2010 5:22 pm

Thank you COLLIVE for posting this article. I am most probably like many other frustrated parents out there. I just finished my scheduled appointment with Rabbi Raitman and was very impressed with his insight, advice and practical suggestions in a number of ways that we had overlooked. I’ve never dealt with a “shadchan coach” before but I definitely look forward to working with him for my children. Very reassuring that there is somebody who hears, listens and relates.

To 33
July 15, 2010 4:12 pm

To number 33.
Thank you for posting. I’m glad to hear that there are caring people who read and review the profiles on chabad match.

to #32
July 15, 2010 2:30 pm

Im #35,my comment was for #32 not 30and the offer is still on…believe it or not!!

The Los Angeles shidduch group
July 15, 2010 2:04 pm

In Los Angeles there is a group of devoted women that have been meeting once a week since summer began trying to match up the singles from California . Parents can send in their child’s profile and it will be brought up at the meetings.
Their e-mail address is snla770@gmail .com

att #42
July 15, 2010 1:52 pm

Marry yourself? The point is to make a list of the qualities you want in a *spouse*. Read the post again.

Anyway, I thought on ChabadMatch only shadchanim can search the database?

att #40
July 15, 2010 1:27 pm

Funny, you are basically describing ChabadMatch, except first you gotta stop wanting to marry YOURSELF!!!!

Chabadmatch is a community service
July 15, 2010 1:23 pm

Chabadmatch may not be perfect, but I’m not sure people realize how much time and effort must go into creating any interactive database website. True, chabadmatch charges an annual fee, but I suspect the cost of creating, implementing, maintaining and running it exceeds receipts. Some hakaras hatov is in order. Even if something is not perfect, a team of people are working to create a solution, and it is a start. Instead of griping, let’s help develop this tool to become better. I notice that chabadmatch does ask for constructive feedback, even if they don’t have the resources to respond… Read more »

A Random Idea
July 15, 2010 12:21 pm

I think everybody agrees that Shadchonim don’t work, and neither does ChabadMatch. How about creating a website that works in this fashion: Any single can sign up and make a free profile. The single posts his/her resume, reference numbers and perhaps a picture. Then the single is presented with a list of all important qualities that you may be interested in, for example, Responsible, Organized, Outgoing, Sense of humor, Temperament, Respect, Open-minded, etc etc. The single has to sort that list of qualities from most important to least important. The site will then show the single all ‘matches’ on the… Read more »

Shadchonim catalogue
July 15, 2010 11:53 am

I like this post because the Shadchonim are explaining how they want to work. Their expectations and best way to work with them. This site would be doing a community a service if it would have a Shadochim catalogue. Including their names, preferred method of contact, frequency of contact required etc their approach, what they consider the important aspects and how their prospectives to deal with them. The list on Chabadmatch is a start. A broader and more descreptive approach linked to helpful articles would be better still. Btw There is a number ranking on Chabadmatch. What is the mean… Read more »

to 31
July 15, 2010 11:35 am

Really gave up his SIE connection? Lets hear from Avtzon directly..

FIVE C's?!
July 15, 2010 10:47 am

i thought it was just four. Color, clarity, cut and carat weight. every jew is a diamond after all.

Here's how it works
July 15, 2010 10:46 am

Its interesting to see how people THINK ChabadMatch should work. People seem to think that if they will post their profile, there are shadchanim lining up to match them up. NO! THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS! 1. Post your profile. 2. contact a shachan. 3. When the shadchan gives you a name, look into it and let them know if you are interested. If you are not interested, let them know why. Guide them!!!! Be a mentch. Be polite and appreciate the fact that they are doing YOU a favor. 4. If the shadchan does not get back to you,… Read more »

#30
July 15, 2010 9:47 am

Well i have a brother who has never been on chabadmatch but relies on shadchanim and friends,hes a couple of years older then your daughter,hes handsome,head screwed on and a mentsch thru and thru…and im not being biased!!!what is she looking for?maybe we can make a shidduch right here?!

Thank you
July 15, 2010 9:45 am

Well written, Mrs. Bakaleynik.

Network person
July 15, 2010 9:14 am

Chabadmatch gave me access. I suggest hundreds maybe thousands of people from chabadmatch. When i was in Canada, i met with a shadchan to try to match up people. She had an entire room with a computer, with notes about all the chababmatch people. I was in the south a month ago, another shadchan told me she felt she knew the chabadmatch people by heart. I was in another meeting in the east , 4 shadchans got together to make matches. Everyone one of them knew countless details of each and every chabadmatch person. I not going to email each… Read more »

its true
July 15, 2010 8:06 am

Its pointless being on Chabad match, my daughter has been on for years. . . shes 27. . we’ve NEVER been contacted. . . what they’re claiming is just not true . . . Been there , done that, along with many others, nothing happens , nothing

To 24
July 15, 2010 7:45 am

There is 1 full time Shadchan. Avtzon, he even gave up Sichos In English for it.

state the facts----TRUTHFULLY !!!!!
July 15, 2010 2:50 am

shadchanim–begin with telling the truth.—Oh–she was engaged twice—I had no idea!!!! Oh ,she doesn’t care about a L’Chaim, because she’s had two already—I had no idea.–Present all the facts truthfully and then let the young man or young lady decide.–UNBELIEVABLE—BUT TRUE

Chabadmatch
July 15, 2010 2:26 am

Since everyone keeps bring that up, might as well comment: #1 PLEASE UPLOAD A PICTURE, all the profiles are so… similar, a picture goes a long way to help you stand out. #2 Please use it, don’t be cheap. It is a good way to centralize things in chabad, and to know who is single and basic info. It doesn’t mean anything bad, or demeaning…. Try it,. When I took the time to update it properly and write a decent profile about me I actually had a few calls from there. Wondering who I am? Check the guys with pictures…… Read more »

Hard to disagree more
July 15, 2010 2:19 am

Do you realize what you wrote in the article? You are as unrealistic about the ideal shadchen as a BT mother looking to marry off her first daughter (sorry). The shadchen must be tall and dark, skinny, energetic, have the right approach, spend a lot of time etc…. Get real. It is not how it works, there are 1000 single guys and girls out there and shadchanim are trying to do the math and throw out the names. Shadchanim have their own kids to marry off, pesach, succos, the summer bills and other things to do. But, a lot of… Read more »

the only way out of this
July 15, 2010 2:03 am

Moishe Raitman please move to new york

to #22
July 15, 2010 1:23 am

your right. and #25 your right too. the aibishter will help, but he also wants you to help yourself. make sure you are a true mentsch to members of your own family. those that don’t eventrually do suffer. foster good family relations from a young age and you will avoid rejection

It may seem hard, but a positive attitude is the ONLY way to succeed
July 15, 2010 12:30 am

To everyone complaining, I am sorry you all have had difficult experiences, but personally, every time I have a difficult life experience, first I suffer, then I ask why, and eventually I figure out that Hashem wants me to DO something about it. When I finally do take action and make changes, I ALWAYS grow. And that is the point! Difficult things happen to people. They are being given a chance to grow. Take up the challenge that Hashem is offering you — rise to the occasion — respond maturely! Do not blame others, do not find excuses, do not… Read more »

its a full time job
July 15, 2010 12:03 am

today people have to work and help with shiduchim nobody is a full time shadchan
you have to do reserch yourself you know what is important for you

watching the show
July 14, 2010 11:58 pm

The way I see it; Be a mentch to a shadchan. Give them a very short description of what you are looking for and they are likely to suggest a name that you will probably refuse, then you need to tell them exactly why that name is not for you and realise your list just got a little bit longer, then the shadchan will give you another name that you will probably refuse and then you need to tell the shadchan exactly why it is not for you then you need to realise that your list just got a little… Read more »

the final check
July 14, 2010 11:33 pm

everyone wants perfection skinny goodlooking yichus money chevraman learner and the list goes on. skip all that – check out hwo they treat their family, grandparents inlaws etc. that in the end tells all and is whats most improtant. whoever i speak to agrees iwth this.

You go #16
July 14, 2010 11:12 pm

#16. You are 1000% Correct. People are living in a fantasy land. The Shadchan has no time ever to talk to anyone. They are SUPER busy with absolutely nothing . They give you a run around on how they are soooo busy but meanwhile u see them somewhere and they have all the time in the world ( You cant expect them to wait on you hand and foot, i know they have their own lives also). They just dont care anymore. They stopped doing research on the the person they are trying to match up. They are just throwing… Read more »

COMMENT ON CHABADMATCH
July 14, 2010 11:06 pm

My older daughter found her husband on chabadmatch. My younger daughter is on there now. Suggestions have come from there. We have turned down some and some have turned us down. Each suggestion has brought my child one step closer to her bershert.

I am with #10
July 14, 2010 11:06 pm

Please some one list the names and contacts of the Shadchanim that do the things in this article, I have yet to find one.

Moishe Raitman
July 14, 2010 11:01 pm

ive dealt with moishe and he sure knows what hes doing. people LISTEN to him. if u think u know better, take a moment to reconsider what you’ve heard cos he’s worth your time. if he suggests, then take it seriously even if you will only be ticking off 99 of the boxes. at least be mature enough to consider – YOU ARE NOT PERFECT YOURSELF!!

chabadmatch
July 14, 2010 10:57 pm

Definately was Raichman! it’s Raichman’s website, not Raitmans

should ofs, would ofs, could ofs.....
July 14, 2010 10:46 pm

a) chabad match is useless ( trying to get a response from them is like trying to reach the prime minister of england) basically its a place to put a resume and picture that sits. b) the shadchanim are useless they are all too busy with their own lives, don’t want to know you cause you are related or connected to them or have enough money to interest, they are deaf and decide who and what they want to set you up with, and don’t listen to any suggestions, try getting one to call back consistantly without getting excuses because… Read more »

sure?
July 14, 2010 10:42 pm

Are you sure its Raitman that founded chabadmatch?
I thought it was Moshe Raichman.

Amazing
July 14, 2010 10:24 pm

Go chicago Shidduch group!

shidduchim
July 14, 2010 10:04 pm

Eliezer`s daughter was not good for Yitzchok Avinu because she wasn`t from Gezshe. Avraham Avinu sent Eliezer to his Eigene mishpacha to find a wife. Why choose and pick one lesson, and choose to skip another

shadchan crisis
July 14, 2010 8:49 pm

SHADCHAN crisis

Great Article
July 14, 2010 8:34 pm

Well written; Concise and eloquent. A great resource.
Thank you Avigail. Kudos to Rabbi Raitman

True but
July 14, 2010 8:21 pm

Now that we know what shadchanim should do, where are the shadchanim that do just these things?

not so
July 14, 2010 8:18 pm

He did not start Chabadmatch. It is someone else.

chabadmatch
July 14, 2010 8:09 pm

yeah no1 on chabadmatch does anything ive been on there for years and no1 contacts me!

To #1 and #2 - ChabadMatch
July 14, 2010 7:50 pm

I think you are mixing up Rabbi Moishe Raitman with the founder of ChabadMatch who is Moshe Raichman.

To # 1
July 14, 2010 7:41 pm

“If only every single would sign up, the shidduch challenge would be helped so much” Many people have signed up to this website and have been on it for years, yet little has it helped them. The website is only a good database if there are shadchanim that are actively taking these names and matching people up. People have been signed up, and have had no suggestions for months, and maybe even years. I have a suggetion for users of chabadmatch.com Everyone should display their name for the public to see. Since this is the most important thing in your… Read more »

very to the point
July 14, 2010 7:35 pm

its good to have all the things we know are true put in a clear and concise fashion, amazing

amazing !!!
July 14, 2010 7:33 pm

the only shiduch article that has some sense to it!

divorcee
July 14, 2010 7:28 pm

not everyone wants to write up everything upfront
there are some shadchanim that already categorize you if you come from a divorced home.
although i can appreciate ones want to be careful…
the fear really may not be founded.

Chabad Match
July 14, 2010 7:24 pm

Chabad Match would help if the membership that is paid would go to salary of a full time shadchan who will help set ppl up.
I paid for two years and nothing came out of chabadmatch.

Well Written
July 14, 2010 6:52 pm

Rabbi Raitman is the founder of ChabadMatch. If only every single would sign up, the shidduch challenge would be helped so much… Besuros tovos!

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