Mar 14, 2017
Did the NYPD Ticket You on Purim?

People who were ticketed during the Purim celebrations in Crown Heights by the NYPD are being asked to report it.

On Sunday, as the Jewish community in Brooklyn's Crown Heights neighborhood was celebrating the holiday of Purim, a public announcement was being shared on social media.

"There's no left turn into President street from Utica Ave (coming from Carroll street) it's in effect 7:00am to 7:00 pm including Sundays," the message asid.

"This corner have NYPD sitting in the corner or waiting in the middle of President street most of the times, please repost this message in every CH group save some people money and points on their licenses."

On Tuesday, the Crown Heights Jewish Community Council (CHJCC) notified that their staff are communicating with NYPD about tickets that were issued on Purim.

They asked that if you received a ticket for double parking or illegal left turn on Purim, you should please email a copy to mail@chjcc.org or drop off a copy at the community council office by close of business on Wednesday, March 15.



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1
Mixed feelings
Not sure how to feel about this... It's great that Yidden are getting their tickets dismissed, but is this how the game is played?

No left turns from Utica has been going on for a while already...
(3/14/2017 6:48:43 PM)
2
John
BS"D What about triple parking
(3/14/2017 7:06:39 PM)
3
And the police are antisemites?!?!?
Double parking illegal turn. Them is the rules!!!!
Chilul Hashem to put yourself above the law!!!
דינא דמלכותא דינא
What a disgrace to fight it!!!!
(3/14/2017 7:19:32 PM)
4
Rules are rules
Safety is important EVERY day of the year and should be enforced EXTRA on purim when there are kids roaming the streets and post lechayim drivers.
Sorry that you have to pay the extra fee. Please be more careful next year.
(3/14/2017 8:17:10 PM)
5
#1,2,and 3
It looks like non of you got tickets on Purim. you would have spoken differently would have gotten one. YES when it comes to a Holiday, police should show some sensitivity period. as they do for Goiyeshe holidays. WHAT EXACTLY IS BOTHERING YOU???? IS IT BOTHRING YOU THAT A JEW MIGHT NOT HAVE TO WASTE MONEY BEACAUSE HE WAS BUSY GIVING OUT sHALACH mONOS . SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
(3/14/2017 8:49:25 PM)
6
To no 1 and 3
Perhaps you don't drive...but if you did you will notice all around the neighborhood EVERY Sunday lines of double parked cars outside every church. There is some kind of allowance for it, but bc we don't drive on Shabbos or Yom Tov it's not an issue for us. I think we can have our one day!! Sounds fair to me! (I didn't drive or get a ticket on Purim,...and I live near Utica so I am aware of the no left turn!) Just saying! It's nice to hear this community will catch a break for once!
(3/14/2017 9:37:53 PM)
7
5 years on
And people don't know about the left turn??? That's ridiculous, they deserve those tickets. As for double parking, if it's for a minute to drop off MM that shouldn't be an issue. But if the drivers get out, go in the house for a schnapps & a schmooze, they also deserve the ticket.
(3/14/2017 10:44:00 PM)
8
Purim brings out the worst in people
I can't even count how many inconsiderate idiots I saw over purim, people triple parked, stopped in crosswalks, blocking traffic etc. etc. I think that the NYPD should of released an extra couple hundred cops giving out tickets so that we can at least make some revenue for the city from those chazarim.
בשבילי נברא העולם had a whole new meaning
(3/14/2017 11:17:45 PM)
9
Good... sort of
Motto of NYPD 71 precinct is "police and community working together". Just like the city will reserve spots for hatzalah ambulances parking, the local police can also make an exception to certain local regulations over purim. This piece sounds like the police have offered some sort of apology for failing to demonstrate the correct amount of flexibility over purim. A bit messy, the chassidish side is mostly to blame here for not reaching out to police in advance, and for then going ahead and breaking the law, but I still think this news piece is a positive thing.
(3/14/2017 11:25:54 PM)
10
agree with 3
what more can you complain about already?
(3/15/2017 1:50:09 AM)
11
Just for some perspective
To all those that are ונהי כחגבים בעינינו. Try to drive down Brooklyn and union on any Sunday morning, it is impossible to get through due to the double parking, but there is a religious courtesy extended, and you'll never see anyone being ticketed. I don't see why it can't go both ways.
(3/15/2017 4:00:03 AM)
12
To 1 2 &3
Since when do yidden speak like that against they're fellow yidd?
I'm sure you are sorry for what you wrote!
(3/15/2017 4:29:37 AM)
13
THANK U!
Thank u! Dan Lkaf Zchus! Chill out all u goody too shoos we r not perfect!
(3/15/2017 6:13:28 AM)
14
THis is ludikris
Why would the law change on Purim. What is the law is the law. If yu brake it then pay. Is it fair for people to double and triple park. Would u want people double and triple parking on Church on Sunday.?

(3/15/2017 7:23:27 AM)
15
moshe der g
to all you complainers and HATERS
there is something called courtesy

example i drive on the way to work on Sundays and there is a church that has double parked cars every Sunday and causes traffic . so i called 311 a few times and everytime i followed up with 311 and they said "no tickets were issued it is a courtesy to the church

so there is nothing wrong with asking the police department for a courtesy DAY on purim when people drive more and need to double park for a few minutes

ths is the way the city works .. the government should work FOR THE PEOPLE

(3/15/2017 7:23:48 AM)
16
To #3
During the holocaust many Hungarian Jews were saying to comply with the Hungarian laws & not help their fellow Jewish brothers who were refugees in Hungary bc דינא דמלכותא דינא

The point is don't use a verse from the toirah against you're own people. If the chjcc can do something to help the Comunity & fight their tickets who are you to speak against it & further more bring verses from the toirah to prove it.
(3/15/2017 7:40:56 AM)
17
To #3
Calm down. Who's "putting themselves above the law"? The same cops who wrote the tickets have the discretion to void them (same way as they can choose to not ticket you in the first place).

All the CHJCC is doing is asking them to do that. If not, then those tickets will still be paid (or the individual recipients will go to traffic court).
(3/15/2017 7:57:40 AM)
18
Double Standards
To #3: However, It's perfectly legal for people to double park by the churches on Clove & Empire. This happens at least 3 times a week on a regular basis and they NEVER get ticketed. They park on the sidewalks, double park on Empire Blvd in the bike lane. That's ok??
(3/15/2017 7:58:44 AM)
19
Time to take action
We all need to call internal affairs ,and start making complaints against these officers .
Unaceptable .
Its called anti semitism.
Targeting jews ,and when the churches double tripple park there is blind eye.
Time to bring the news in to crownheights.
TAKE ACTION!!!!!!!!
Dont be selfish and sit like lame duck


(3/15/2017 9:22:43 AM)
20
To "Purim brings out the worst in people"
Really?! That's what you see? That's funny because I see that Purim brings out the very BEST in people! Haman Ha'rasha would certainly agree with you. Perhaps you need your eyes checked, or more likely an attitude adjustment...
(3/15/2017 9:36:46 AM)
21
49 yr in the hood
wow # 3 yr getting a lot of attention , i am jealous
LOL . maybe i should say something stupid . ........
(3/15/2017 1:32:27 PM)
22
mike
To all those who are saying that you have to follow The rules you may be right but these police are nasty people why don't you give tickets by all the churches were people are parked on sidewalks triple parked And it's not just by churches. when you drive around you see big time a double standard that's where I have a problem The rules and laws apply to everyone in the city no matter what time of the year it may be or where it may be
(3/15/2017 1:48:55 PM)
23
Omg!!!
Ok 1) rules shouldn't change for purim like honestly should we change the rules that you drive on the other side of the road for purim so you can give your friend shalach manos who lives there2) to #21 go fly a kite 3) to #8 mind your language who are you to talk like that???
(3/15/2017 2:44:19 PM)
24
Context please
No one is talking about dangerous moving violations. We're talking about things that are not dangerous, are difficult on a day when so many cars are on the roads, and where the police department has the ability and extends that as a courtesy when needed.

The comment about people being nasty on Purim
1. Do you know that any of those nasty people got tickets?
2. Maybe only nice people got tickets
3. Maybe you're extremely sensitive to things that most people aren't too and there's nothing nasty about them
(3/15/2017 3:09:57 PM)
25
Misleading article
After receiving my left turn ticket I was advised by friends that there was an article on your site that stated to bring your ticket to the Community Council. In the morning I did just that. Upon entering I told the JCC that I unfortunately was one of those recipients, and to my dismay no one knew anything about this.
I was told that I would be called with info when they will have . The call was not forthcoming , so at the end of the day I came back and was told that only parking tickets are being dealt with . I mentioned that the article​ stated specifically that left turn. To say the least it is very frustrating to be mislead.
A disgruntled resident
(3/15/2017 6:01:09 PM)
26
Sadly I have to say
This has got to be one of the funniest set of comments I've ever seen. But in truth it's quite sad to see so many people arguing about something so obvious. Honestly, right or wrong it doesn't make sense to blame people for double parking on Purim if there are exempts given every week to the church!
(3/15/2017 6:22:07 PM)
27
to anyone who says the rule is a rule
DID YOU EVER DRIVE AROUND ON SUNDAY AND SEE ALL THE DOUBLE PARKED CARS BY THE CHURCH? AND NOBODY GETS A TICKET!!!! BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU MAKE A EXCEPTION TO THE RULE. IF THERE IS A PARKING SPOT AND SOMEONE DOUBLE PARKS THEN YES THEY DESERVE A TICKET

BUT IF A DAY LIKE PURIM WHERE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS FOR EVERYONE TO DRIVE AROUND YOU SUSPEND THE RULE JUST LIKE THEY DO WITH MANY HOLIDAYS THEY SUSPEND PARKING FOR CLEANING THE STREETS
THIS IS A SIMPLE COMMON SENSE
(3/15/2017 7:29:12 PM)
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