By COLlive reporter
924 people voted Sunday for members in the Vaad Hakohol and board of directors of the Crown Heights Jewish Community Council, COLlive was told at 10:16 PM.
The minimum needed to be elected was 463 votes. There needs to be a minimum of 5 elected members and a maximum of 7 (meaning there should be a run off).
Here are the results:
719: Fishel Brownstein, 56, accountant
639: Chanina Sperlin, 45, real estate management (incumbent)
594: Elie Poltorak, 30, attorney
513: Zev Cadaner, 45, printer
421: Yaacov Rogalsky, 59, commercial real estate (not voted in)
416: Yossel Mochkin, 55, pizza shop owner (not voted in)
311: Mendel Shagalov, community activist (not voted in)
282: Yossi Keller, 45, librarian (not voted in)
220: Ziv Tamir, criminal defense attorney (backed out)
208: Avraham Bialestock (not voted in)
Results for Gabboim of 770:
687: Zalman Lipskier, heating engineer (incumbent)
595: Mottel Chein, printer
565: Uriel Niasoff, home improvements
535: Yosef Boruch Spielman, diamond sales
321: Gershon Chaimson, sofer and batim (not voted in)
Elections opponents say the results are pending the court hearing on June 3.
In a statement to COLlive, the 4 elected members wrote: “We thank all of the members of our community.. who placed their confidence in us and came out to vote today.”
Brownstein, Sperlin, Poltorak and Cadaner added: “We respectfully call upon both Rabbonim of the Beis Din and the outgoing members of the Vaad Hakohol to work with us to ensure a smooth transition.”
COLlive Elections Coverage:
+ Claimed Elections Count 832
+ Op-Ed: They All Must Go
+ Crown Heights Elections Are On
+ Candidate Tamir Calls It Quits
+ Judge Rejects Sunday Election
+ Candidate Tamir Calls It Quits
+ Op-Ed: Why We All Need To Vote
+ Op-Ed: A Letter to My Supporters
+ Disputed Candidates Press On
+ Vaad Hakohol Under Dispute
Finally!!!! Some words of wisdom. Well said!
We would all do best to DO and LISTEN to comment 110.
There is no place for ‘mob rules’ in crown heights.
Kinderlech!!!! Open your eyes and do teshuvah.
Enough, is enough, with the chillul Hashem and chillul Lubavitch. You guys are playing with fire!!!!!!
to 105 Correction : Rabbi Mangel WAS a great man, yesh koneh olamo b’shaah achas, and the reverse is true as well. v’dal.
Who are you people congratulating ? What are you celebrating? Just read Devarim 1:22 “Vatikrevun elai kulchem – You all approached me, in contrast with the orderly and respectful “and the heads of your tribes and elders approached me”. Rashi notes that when the population is engaged in a worthwhile endeavor, it conducts itself with dignity, and respect. On the other hand, when the population acts as a “multitude” ie.with a mob mentality, clamoring and agitating, pushing and shoving with great commotion – without respect for their leaders or elders, Es toig nish ! It’s unfortunately a sign of hefkeirus,… Read more »
remind me who changed the locks on rabbi shwai’s office.
remind me who stopped giving a Rabbi shwai his salary
remind me who canceled rabbi shwai’s insurance
where were you when this happened why didn’t you scream about Chilul hashem???
and you still have the chutzpa to say they should wait peacefully and not chase these guys out on the spot.
to the new elected officials… CH needsssssssss a change
if you add up all the votes and then subtract you will get to 770 or ye’chei
tell me where there any write in votes from pennsylvania
when the precedent looses he leaves with dignity and grace
not like the LOOSERs in this election that refuse to go.
you don’t know what your talking about Rabbi Mangel is a great man, come to his sheurim and to his farbrangen EVERY single shabboss till 3 pm and look at the people who sit silently and listen to every word he says. you should publicly apologize
So happy to hear your good news!
DN
By the way, don’t be fooled. Rabbi Mangel, in his own little quiet way- with the hashpo-o that he has particularly on the Baal Tshuvos, behind the scenes instigates and advises the way he sees fit. It seems he has an agenda of his own. Just a thought.
Even if this were a totally legal election both according to civil and halachic law, you don’t just storm in like a bunch of goons and evict people and change locks, and cause a total chilul Ha-Shem.
Even l’havdil Obama doesn’t come in the first day he wins election asking Busch to leave the white house and change the locks.
End of communism??!! Wait and see what’s in store for us!!
All right-thinking people owe a tremedous debt of gratitude and a “hakaros Ha-Tov” to Rabbi N. Mangel, who bravely wrote a clear and detailed letter exposing the half-truths and distortions of one of those who the Rebbe told “not to mix-in” and directly encouraging people to vote.. The sicha of Parshas Matos-Masai, 5746 begins with the Rebbe’s lamenting the then prevailing state of “shev v’al taasei.” that was paralyzing the community and preventing an election. And in this election we saw another passive, ineffective and “hands-off” “so-called authority” counseling people to “shev v’al taasei.” If I compare this to the… Read more »
It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong, the fact is that 924 people in this community openly defied the senior (serving) Rov.
I hope i’m wrong but I think that we are even further than peace then we ever were.
im not sure whats more pathetic. the elections or all of you who are actually believing in the change its supposedly going to bring
good job, with all due respect to Castro
If you were on Kingston Avenue this afternoon you saw this clown breaking locks and acting like the real maniac he is. Channina just followed in suite . If he had any brains he would have left and gone hoime. Guys we are in for three years of total war. It will makje Mosihe Rubashkin look like a Tzaddik…..
Comment # 39 is right on target.
TO #19 ARE YOU SELLING YOUR HOME ,IM LOOKING TO BUY A HOUSE.
The accountant: Needed to calculate all the complex grants that the community needs
The Lawyer: Needed to argue the case
The Red Head: Needed for the experience
The Printer: Needed to keep the community informed
We have our very own superheros!
To the new Vaad, הצלחה רבה ומופלגה
To ALL those who have a hard time with this “CHANGE FOR THE BETTER”
There is a folks-saying
די וואס בילען קענען בילען, אבער דער טראמפוויי פארט וויייטער
Keep on barking, but the train keeps on travling
What a chutzpah, to call everyone who lives in CH a farmer!
Firstly, ahavas yisroel doesn’t only apply to not-yet-religious. I can only wonder how you “mekarav” others!
Secondly, how can you talk like that when there are hundreds of couples ready, willing and waiting to go on shlichus–with hardly any openings?! How can you rub in their wounds by proclaiming that it’s their fault that they can’t fulfill their life’s dream, when it is so very very difficult to find a position! Think, think, think!
Try working on your ahavas yisroel first….Your comment was very disappointing.
YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG! IF ANYONES CHILDREN END UP MARRYING SHIKSES CHAS VESHOLOM IT WILL BE you wrote: BECAUSE THEY WERE TURNED OFF FROM YIDDISHKIET BY THE CATS AND DOG FIGHTING BETWEEN THE RABBONIM THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE LEADERS FOR THEM TO LOOK UP TO. easy to blame others if you have a problem with your child be mapashpesh, the number one cause is the chinuch (which includes watching who are their friends etc) you gave them and the relation you have with them plus the dugma chayo he sees in his parents. this will even prevent… Read more »
You must be new in town. This has already been done! a group attempting to de-legitimize the vaad hakohol etc. did just that. they went to court and the result was a court ordered referendum that confirmed the rules as they stand today and therefore Court Approved. If you have any problem with the elected officials – the best way is to present candidates that YOU feel are good for the community – and go campaign amongst your so-called disenfranchised and disgruntled friends to come out en mass (as YOU claim that you are the majority of the community) and… Read more »
I truly hope that the result of the court case – that the judge will ask that a Zabl”o be held to determine who is the real Badat”z (just Rabbi’s Osdobo, Heller and Schwey or also the 3 new ones) and therefore empowered by Torah and the Bylaws to arbitrate and rule (piskey din) in questions and disagreements that arise among the Vaad Hakohol and Netzigim etc. – this would be a very bellyfull outcome – with a clear deadline 2-3 months to produce a Psak din from a Zabl”o. Let the will of Torah! prevail – as it is… Read more »
to my knowledge, one of the Rabbonim took it OUT of the hands of Rabbonim and brought it to COURT. so now lets let Dina D’malchusa rule. you cant have it both ways – not agree to go to an impartial din tora (either a mutually agreed upon standing Bais Din, and if this is not possible then do what all Jews do – and the Rebbe encouraged it many times (see igros) do a ZABL”O. and then when you dont get your way go to court and scream RABBONIM.. if its Rabbonim – Let Rabbi Osdobo and Rabbi Schwey… Read more »
Plaese Split The Comunity it Worked williamsberg Boro park And in history
About how many families are there in Crown Heights?
bring mosho rubashkin back
YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG! IF ANYONES CHILDREN END UP MARRYING SHIKSES CHAS VESHOLOM IT WILL BE BECAUSE THEY WERE TURNED OFF FROM YIDDISHKIET BY THE CATS AND DOG FIGHTING BETWEEN THE RABBONIM THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE LEADERS FOR THEM TO LOOK UP TO. AND ALL THEY HAVE SEEN FROM THEM FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS IS THE WORST FIGHTING IMAGINABLE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE RABBONIM. THEY HAD NO BUSINESS MIXING INTO THIS WHOLE SITUATION WHICH ONLY MADE THEM INTO THE WORST EXAMPLE TO OUR YOUTH OF WHAT A CHASID, A FRUM JEW AND A LEADER… Read more »
Why doesn’t a woman resident of Crown Heights, an unmarried person or one of the many adult males prohibited from voting in this election just challenge the election in court for being illegal discrimination? If you complain of tyranny, there’s an easy solution: correct the whole election process.
But it seems that we’re all a little content with a little tyranny in our community and therefore afraid to challenge the leadership. Even the Osdoba camp doesn’t want to do the obvious because women would then be able to vote, and G-d forbid that should happen …
Yup, they are a bunch of clowns, which is why they are such a good representation of CH.
I think that they are morons:
1. People who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.
2. Psychology. people of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
LETS DAVEN FOR THEM…
I HAVE MADE IT A POINT TO STAY OUT OF ALL THE MACHLOIKES OF THIS VOTING AS IN OTHER SITUATIONS. SO WITHOUT KNOWING ANY OF IT, I STILL WONDER HOW AND WHY RABONIM BELITTLE THEIR STATUS AND DEMEAN THEMSELVES BY ALLOWING THEMSELVES TO GET SHLEPPED INTO THIS MESS. AS THE RABBONIM OF MY SHCHUNAH I RESPECT THEM ALL BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THEY SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN POLITICS. THE REBBE NEVER DID. AS A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF CROWN HEIGHTS WHO B”H HAVE MADE A POINT AND SUCCEEDED IN STAYING OUT OF ALL THE RIDICULOUS FRICTION OVER THE… Read more »
They are:
1. comic performer, as in a circus, theatrical production, or the like, who wears an outlandish costume and makeup and entertains by pantomiming common situations or actions in exaggerated or ridiculous fashion, by juggling or tumbling, etc.
2. They are people who acts like a clown; comedian; joker; buffoon; jester.
3. They are prankster; a practical joker.
4. They are coarse, ill-bred person; a boor.
5. They are peasant; rustic.
Unfortunately we have a new Dovid Fisher in the community by the name of Mendy Hendel. He has everyone and especially Rabbi Scwei endorsing what ever he does. Hendel is an extremely smart but very dangerous person. What ever he does he says is for the kovod of the Rebbe and for the Rebbe. Dovis Fisher is also a very smooth guy and had everyone working for him with a snap of the finger. The new vaad and very inocent yungerleit who have been duped thinking they are out on a holy mission. One thing I will guarantee there will… Read more »
looks like the first thing these guys need to arrange in the community is a gym. look at the size of all of them!
from the first election to the 2 from vaad it was 9 years due to machlokes so dont tell me the rebbe wanted every 3 years and taht what the rebbe wanted.
in igros kodesh volume 25 page 106 the rebbe wrote to the rav of kefar chabad not to make elections due to machlokes.. read it!!!
If you think this is the end of communism and the “Russian” style rule, wait to see what you’re gonna get from the new regime. Take note; many of the “behind the scenes” advisors,mashpiim, endorsers, etc. are Russian and still have the old Russian mentality imbued in them. No matter how lon they’ve been here, thay never lose it or change. GOOD LUCK, I hope and pray that everyone’s brochos and good wishes will be mikuyum and we should experience only good and positive things within the community.
Will do anything for Eli Slavin
That is a true compliment to Eli
By the way last elections Yossel Mochkin attacked me and many others standing at the voting stations screaming at people and taking videos of them…..
So funny how this time same situation he was on montgomery all day begging people to vote
To all of the people congratulating the ‘New’ group.
You are the same old horses, making the same old comments, for the same old results.
Get a life, MAYBE it is a victory for you (and maybe not), but it definitely is nothing new>
More of the same machlokes loving, partisan hacks that would rather see this place burn then anyone competent being in charge.
its not over the courts will decide
the majority of the community did not vote, Not then and not know!
Thats a message to ALL of you,
WE don’t want ALL of you!
Mazal Tov, really. Chabad must realize that what’s happening in CH is followed all around the world by all Chabad communities. We hope they will work for the good of the Community. Wheither we voted or not, it’s a good thnig for all Chabad. Let’s work to created a Kiddoush Chabad, a Kiddush Rebbe. Please !!! It’s not a question of Meshichisten, Lo-Meshichisten, this Rov or this one. It’s a question of Kiddush Chabad, of Kiddush Rebbe. Please.
these elections have nothing to do with rabbonim. it has to do with the community. rabbi heller pleaded the fifth to be politically correct. i think the election was great sans cadaner since hes a officer of a school i think he has self interest, overal seems like a good vaad …i think its good that poltrak brownstein is there they both have their expirenece which is important. i wish broch vhatzlocho to the new vaad.
Vox populi vox deus
Which means, “The voice of the people is the voice of G-d”.
Kein yehi ratson.
Maybe we should make new elections to vote in a pastor as religious leader in CH who can give good mussar and put everyone in their places. What has this community come to that fights its local rov. Mind you the Yidden in the Midbar fought moshe rabeinu no differently, today we have dasans and avirams too. How can you speak for the Rebbe when the word of Hashem has been spoken (through the rov). Do you think the Rebbe would dismiss the rov’s psak like you do? Chas Vesholom. To all of you that dispute the rov, you should… Read more »
that’s it! I know why they won…all the freebies they’ll get at different dinners & receptions will fuel their efforts on our behalf. Just look at Chanina. he obviously has enjoyed himself fressing away for the past few years.
I’ll be happy to cook delicious & calorie filled meals for them IF THEY’D JUST GO AWAY!
Mazel tov, hope is here a new dawn in this community
I’m so happy – r osdoba must step down
The rebbe obm is happy
Please! You guys can all lose a few pounds.
Look at this picture, four overweight shlobs, cmon show our kids an example, lose weight!! Slobs!
dont you get bored of posting the same post in every website
to ppl like you i say:
yes he is a Rav , but the posuk says
VIYEHU EINECHO RO’OS ES MORECHA ( and your eyes shall see your teachers or more correct you leader )
and if my leader is a MSERAR BEIS DIN than i have a major problem and so do you …………..
He is as wishy washy as they come. At the end of the day is out to protect his own interests.
He listens to the Rov when it fits his own agenda. I have seen him come to the Rov and then try to say the Rebbe does differently. So if you don’t want to listen to the Rov why bother asking him?
Unfortunately Leible Groner has lost a lot of the respect he had years ago. Let him go around the world and tell his stories(true or not true) They all sound nice.
In the previous article you state that there was 800 and change. Now it is over 900???
I don’t know how it happened, I saw many ppl not residents of the shchuna voting. Something really stinks. I spoke to a wide mix of ppl and majority did not vote.
my friends” Open your eyes and see” you fight for everything! Meshichist, non, Meshichist, This rov, the “other Rov”,elelctions. no elections everyone comes with “the REBB E SAID” don’t you realize that something is wrong? and most problably that in you? I know ,you do not like this,too much yeshus to recognize that you are wrong, you have “the Rebbe said” in your side for everything, as well as the other guy who is fighting against you STOP, STOP, STOP,DO you thing that you are bringing naches to the Rebbe? Farmers! this is the problem.A LUB cannot be with another… Read more »
YES WE CAN
There are rules…and rules are rules. Your same Rebbe said Rabbonim shouldnt mix in. And your same Rebbe held of the bylaws which mandate that elections take place every 3 years.
Having a tent on montgomery and kingston and a truck on carroll is like rubashkin ging house to house and lets not remmebe that CH had 500 new members now
“Rebbe made the original Badatz and they were all equally holy”
The Rebbe did NOT take away anyone’s Be’chira!!!
“and I hear that Rabbi Heller forbade it to”
That’s absolute rubbish!
“two against one”
So your “I hear” suddenly turned to fact!
These elction are as legit as it gets. We the people fo Crown Heights who care for democracy voted, albeit many were detered to vote. In fact, whenI came to the polling station on Montgomery & Kingston, I was strongly discouraged to vote by mr. sufferin. He was telling me how these are illegal ellectionsand that it’s asur to vote. What is ilegal about effecting change in a community that for long desperatily needs a change?!
Not mixing in, means not making any changes!
Encouraging the bylaws to be upheld, does not qualify as “mixing in”.
No one insulted Rabbi Osdoba. Rabbi Osdoba insulted HIMSELF. Rabbi Osdoba put his own foot in to his own mouth and now he has to eat it. It;s no ones fault that Rabbi Osdoba backed himself in to a corner, where Rabbi Osdoba GOES TO WAR WITH THE REBBE (the Rebbe Tels Osdoba to keep out of Elections and Osdoba fights the Rebbe, HEAD ON). Needless to say the Rebbe (not Rabbi Osdoba) won the war. Would you expect that the Rebbe should loose the war and Osdoba should win, instead? Would you expect Rabbi Groner to to listen to… Read more »
Their first order of business should be to get Crown Heights in shape physically.
How can a court rule about an election which doesn’t let women vote?
Elections 5769, this Sunday UNITED the entire C.H. with a record voter turnout, united in the message they sent, to the current incumbent dictatorship, that we want change and we will no longer stand for anyone who tries to intimidate us, not to vote. Sundays Election was actually a REFERENDUM if the community has any respect at all whatsoever, for the Fake Rabbonim who “WARNED” and “FORBADE” the community to vote. The maximum voter turnout that any C.H. election, ever gets is about 1200 Voters. This Sundays Election received 924 votes. Considering that this Sunday was memorial Weekend when many… Read more »
What you really mean to say is that if the entire community tels the Rav that they don’t give a hoot about his “psak” it’s TIME FOR THE RAV TO LEAVE town.
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# 19 said:
Time to leave Crown Heights.
If 900 residents can go out and vote against the wishes and directive of the senior Rov in the Shchuna, its time to leave.
People are writing negativethins against Rabbi Osdoba! Did everyone forget that the Rebbe made the original Badatz and they were all equally holy? Is there a new generation here that just doesn’t remember?? Bigger question: Rabbi Groner surely remembers, so how is that he went to vote when Rabbo Osdoba forbade it (and I hear that Rabbi Heller forbade it to!). And even if you will say that “it seems” that they may Chas Vsholom be wrong, yet its two against one, and what’s more the Rebbe said then that we must listen to the Rabbonim even if we don’t… Read more »
Cadaner’s election is illegal and against the Community’s bylaws.
He directs and is involved in a mossad – Bais Chaya Mushka girls school on Carroll and some say also the Hendel’s Ohr Menachem boys school.
The bylaws state that a person involved with an organization cannot be elected because he won’t be able to properly serve all the institutions.
This is just one of the problems with these “elections”
1. THE LAWYER (E.P.) to keep things legal and to follow through with the inevitable litigation; 2. THE CPA (F.B.) G-D knows we need an accountant in this town; 3. THE EDUCATOR (Z.C.) Keeps it all frum, yiddish, and plants the seeds of tomorrow; 4. THE INCUMBENT/PHILANTHROPIST (C.S.) You always need an incumbent to show you the ropes and bring ideas to practice. . . . this group is the bomb! they Rock. May they be blessed with all the Rebbe’s brochos and may g-d bless the toil of their hands. We believe in you. Lead! and we shall follow.
Even a Rov is accountable to the community and has to explain his position. There are very clear instructions from the Rebbe that the Rabonim should not intervene in the elections, so there is a need for clear explanations if a Rov wants to cancel them, and I didn’t see such.
I am not a supporter of Rabbi Schwei, but I think that in this case. he is absolutely right, one elections have nothing to do with the other.
this guy got in to hendel’s coup.
i cant see why everyone thinks voting is against the rabonim this isnt even their “fight/territory” the bylaws say every 3 years are elections so who does this rov think he is going against the community and causing people to fall out of the race so as not make machlokes. Mix out of it and maybe when u can get along and be an example we would consider your opinion in such matters. maybe we should respectfully terminate the current rabonim and start from fresh theyve had their chance and have only made things worse – when someone calls witha… Read more »
National Voter Turnout in Federal Elections: 1960–2008 This page provides information about voter statistics, including age of voting population, voter registration, turnout, and more. Year Voting-age population Voter registration Voter turnout Turnout of voting-age population (percent) 2008* 231,229,580 NA 132,618,580* 56.8% 2006 220,600,000 135,889,600 80,588,000 37.1% 2004 221,256,931 174,800,000 122,294,978 55.3 2002 215,473,000 150,990,598 79,830,119 37.0 2000 205,815,000 156,421,311 105,586,274 51.3 1998 200,929,000 141,850,558 73,117,022 36.4 1996 196,511,000 146,211,960 96,456,345 49.1 1994 193,650,000 130,292,822 75,105,860 38.8 1992 189,529,000 133,821,178 104,405,155 55.1 1990 185,812,000 121,105,630 67,859,189 36.5 1988 182,778,000 126,379,628 91,594,693 50.1 1986 178,566,000 118,399,984 64,991,128 36.4 1984 174,466,000 124,150,614 92,652,680… Read more »
I was happy to be a free man, this morning, and have the ability to vote for our community leaders, as our Rebbe has wanted.
Tonight I’m even happier, not only because of the excellent results, but because one of the Castro’s within our society are leaving.
I think this is a very clear message to Rabbi Osdoba that being a Rav is not a political position. Crown Heights wants a Rav without corruption and political agendas.
“till the rabonim find respect for the self.”
So basically indefinitely.
See post 32
yellow fellow needs extreme makeover
Didn’t Shwei do just that? isn’t he the one pushing these elections? how come he is allowed to mix in to the elections? unless you don’t consider him a Rav…
wherever you go your children will here stories about corrupted Rabbonim
What worng with you pepole 924 is a big turn out??? theregot to be over 2000 voters, so not even half of crown heights voted, so wow wow wow , at least there are some pepole that have some respect for the mivtzoim of the rebbe called AHAVAS YISROEL and held them self in till the rabonim find respect for the self.
Did you ever inquire as to the turnout in national elections?
It’s about the same!
In theory I agree with you. However the Rebbe did say quite clearly that Rabbonim cannot mix in (if there should be elections, the only thing they can dispute are the actual candidates).
If I”m not mistaken, the Rebbe explicitly said that the Rabonim should not mix in to the electoral process!
I can’t fathom why such a large kehilla like in CH and only 924 people voted. Were these the only ones who care about the shchunaoh? Still, kudos to the elected members and much hatzlochoh!
Do you have a better place to go?
let me know, maybe I will join.
Finally some normal about to run the community…………………
I’m looking for a place to live — let us know when u are leaving!
Its people with misconceptions like yours that is destroying our community.
The elections are “disputed” because our Rov told us not to vote.
The amount of people that showed up, (in direct defiance of the rov’s psak) has nothing to do with whether or not the elections are valid.
Unitl we, as a community will learn this very important lesson, that as a frum Jew you cannot just do as you please, but you must follow the rabbonim – we will never have any true peace in our neighborhood.
Following a crowd does not make something right.
to #19 enjoy ur trip…
Be our guest…
Doesn’t the high turnout dispel the notion of “disputed”???
Looks like a good well balenced group
mazal tov! remember to protect the rebbes intrests! !! for the best intrest of all of us ceish echod.
If 900 residents can go out and vote against the wishes and directive of the senior Rov in the Shchuna, its time to leave.
i didn’t really hold of these elections, but after such a turn out i accept it
this IS my Vaad and i wish them much Hatzlocho
For details about the Rabonim election
http://www.poltoraklaw.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/affirmation.pdf
You summed it up just right!
Lets ta’ke hope that these people bring the change we voted for!
Mazal tov! Your terms shoud be B’hatzlocho rabboh and b’siyatoh d’Shmaya.
Now go make sholom between the rabbonim, all the mosdos and the mishichistim and antis generally. Enough fighting. Let’s learn to get along!!!
you have a mandate, use it.
M. Rubashkin made his elections the whole week, went to houses and only got about 900 something.
now they matched the torn out in one rainy day without going to houses!
very impressive!
Mazel tov! to you all, i hope you change something
94: Elie Poltorak, is 29-30 years old not 38
with true love and care for one another these guys will bring true sholom and achdus in the community, they are all iin l’sheim shamiym..
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You’re way off!!!
There were about 800! And over a whole week!!!
Now we just await Shalom! Moshiach Now!
As always, collive is first with results! Amazing!
There you go!!! The community voiced their opinion!!!
Can’t wait for the change to begin!!!
if segal is rov with 700 votes, then these guys are all in for sure!
Looks like a respectable guy. B”H he’s roish
Who are opponents? Is it Rabbi osdoba?
Pretty much matches last (Rabonim) election. 1210 votes in 2005