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Thursday, 4 Adar II, 5784
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When He/She Isn’t For You

Timeless Advice from the Rebbe: To the single woman who said she wasn't attracted to the bochur she was dating. Full Story

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Listen to the Rebbe
July 24, 2015 2:44 pm

The Rebbe clearly said it is how you feel that is the bar to decide a shidduch.

To number 6 and 16
July 24, 2015 8:01 am

Try to think objectively
Sometimes the pros are not really pros and sometimes the cons are not really cons …
Wishing you much success

to #12
July 24, 2015 7:43 am

#12, did the guy at the farbrengen explain why their marriage broke up within a year? Was it because of some inherent incompatability, or because one or both of them were emotionally immature or just unprepared to invest the hard work that it often takes (and especially during the adjustment period of the shana rishona) to grown into a successful marriage? Just because a marriage ends in divorce, it does not always mean that the two people were inherently incompatible.

To Number 8
July 23, 2015 11:40 pm

Although I am not a therapist I would humbly suggest that your child should talk to a professional licensed therapist to verify this doubt. I don’t think it would be at all beneficial for a parent to push their child into a shiduch just because they think its simply the fear of commitment. It may very well be that but as complex emotional beings it may very well be ALSO that the person isn’t the right one for your child.

To number 13
July 23, 2015 10:24 pm

Thanks, I did struggle with the wording! Thank you for the good reminder that we first need to use our mind before letting our hearts take over…lesson learned 🙁

TO #1
July 23, 2015 9:12 pm

If the Rebbeh gave you the same advice ,why did get engaged the next day? Please explain exactly which advice he gave you.

to 12
July 23, 2015 4:19 pm

The first time when he got no answer- THAT was the Rebbe’s answer. step one check resume and see if interested if yes then step 2 write if no answer so why continue? if the Rebbe says yes THEN step 3 go out, feelings etc..

To number six
July 23, 2015 2:53 pm

You made me laugh
You’re right, that can be a problem, and you worded it in a cute way. In life we can be attracted to the wrong things sometimes. It’s not all about feelings. First comes intellect, which means you know that the choice is proper and good, and then comes the feelings, which means you know that you personally can enjoy the choice and feel comfortable with it. We should speak to a mashpia or even a general psychologist to understand why we are attracted to things which aren’t good for us.

How you know so.
July 23, 2015 1:01 pm

I was by Farbrengin a few weeks ago, & a guy gets up & says he was dating this woman, & they felt feelings….& wrote to the Rebbe…..no answer. & waited & waited. Finly they got an answer. But wasn’t clear answer…..& they decided to go for it. & they did….sure enough with in a year their marriage BROKE UP!!! (We can never know)…..

To number 1
July 23, 2015 11:42 am

really? How so?

Back in the day..
July 23, 2015 10:57 am

Most of us got engaged in a very short amount of time with only the very beginning of hamshachas halev (it seemed like it has potential …) with the Rebbe’s answer propelling us to make it official. To make the commitment.
Boruch Hashem our bitachon in the Rebbe’s Bracha helped make it all work out well (for most )

This is beautiful!!
July 23, 2015 10:07 am

This is very informative, thank you!

Question for therapists
July 23, 2015 9:24 am

Is it possible that there is an emotional issue blocking the natural development of these feelings? if a person is fearful of marriage, then as soon as they begin to feel hamshachas halev, they may unconsciously pull back, or find reason to turn away. Like a protective measure. So if you suspect that is what is happening with your child (who gets accused of being ‘picky’ when they claim they just don’t feel any ‘pull’), what do you do? the child feels they are fine, just haven’t met the ‘right’ one… and the parent suspects there is a blockage somewhere.… Read more »

but l thought a person needs to go with
July 23, 2015 9:09 am

his intellgent,you can feel a attaction for the person,what happens when later when you married you find out the the other half has got something that difficult to work with,there are so many things,like aspergers,it no joke and even dangerous to you

Confusion
July 23, 2015 8:36 am

What if someone has hamshochos halev but the factual cons outweigh the really strong hamshochos halev?

Without feeling
July 23, 2015 7:09 am

If someone is without feeling they should look elsewhere as opposed to proceeding, due to physical attraction or logic.. It is not fair to the other person who would not know this. Commitment may not last for the long haul.

Beautiful
July 23, 2015 3:23 am

I got the same answer from the Rebbe when I wrote in about a bochur I had met. I was confused because he had many things I was looking for, yet I couldn’t commit. The Rebbe told me “It depends how you FEEL”, meaning it is not simply the list of things you like that determines whether he is the right one. It’s hamshachas halev that must guide you.

very important note on this letter
July 23, 2015 2:28 am

This letter was written to a young woman who was not observant, and she knew the boy for a long time. It’s important to point this out since this is a very different scenario from the way most of the readers on this site will find their soulmates. Most of those familiar with the Rebbe’s approach to this subject agree that the Rebbe’s opinion, expressed in numerous notes and verbal advice in private audiences, was different in the case of a “Chasidic” boy or girl. While one should have *some* emotional* interest in order to proceed to the finish line… Read more »

Yasher koach
July 23, 2015 1:23 am

Very good point – wait 2 weeks.” Don’t rush things and don’t try being logistical about it. If there’s is a connection then shoin. If not, let it go.

Yep
July 23, 2015 12:51 am

that’s what the Rebbe told me 19 years ago. On the night prior to our engagement

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