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Measles Outbreak in Frum Areas

NYC issues vaccine recommendations as 48 cases of measles occurred in the frum community in Boro Park and Williamsburg. Full Story

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Too much disinformation, and not enough independent thinking
June 27, 2013 5:03 pm

For whoever wrote the following, WAKE UP! “Mortality rates Have dropped massively over the past century due to vaccination. This is the fact. The overwhelming majority of medical professionals advocate vaccination. Not doing so does not just affect yourself, it affects others by causing the virus to spread. ” WRONG. the main reason diseases have been on the decline over the past century is due to improved sanitation, NOT vaccination. By the way, if vaccines work so well, what is the problem with an unvaccinated individual being amongst those who ARE vaccinated? Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime. Secondly, whoever… Read more »

to#48
June 7, 2013 8:54 pm

It’s you who needs to wake up from thy slumber.

#41, #19 already linked that same piece of garbage
June 7, 2013 6:04 pm

Why did you feel the need to link it again and copy and paste the whole thing? Garbage doesn’t smell any better the second time. Just because you saw it on some crackpot site doesn’t make it true. #45, Wakefield Yimach Shmo doesn’t deserve politeness. #48, it is you who is sunk in sheker. You are delusional if you think flouride or GMOs affect a peson’s ability to think. It’s hilarious to see gullible fools like you accuse normal people of being gullible. You’re so afraid of being lied to by the “medical establishment” that you’ll believe literally any quack,… Read more »

DR.SHERRI J. TENPENNY's VIDEO
June 7, 2013 1:11 pm

DR. SHERRI J. TENPENNY’s VIDEO SAYS IT ALL … THAT VACCINES DON’T PROTECT.

BRAVO #16 and #17
June 7, 2013 1:03 pm

BRAVO TO YOU AND TO ALL YOU OTHER INFORMED OUT THERE … ALSO CHECK OUT DR. SHERRY … ‘s VIDEO AGAINST VACCINES. SHE PRESENTS LOTS AND LOTS OF SCIENTIFIC DATA PROVING VACCINES DON’T WORK.

people waking up
June 7, 2013 1:03 am

Its soo nice to see, not all of u are fluorided and gmo’d to the point of continuing to live in this world of Sheker, theRebbe said “open your eyes” and that can mean a lot of things, the evil that surrounds us has no limits, and the pharma/medical INdustry is one of their tentacles in rder to achieve their “agenda 21” ……people open up your eyes, everything is out there, documented, all u need is an open mind …thank u #41 and all the rest who can see beyond, the gullible will hve to wake up sometime soon, hopefully… Read more »

Correction!
June 6, 2013 4:44 pm

Is someone at COL switching the post numbers??!!

#44 was #42 before. Therefore, #46 is now in response to #44.

Please fix the numbers or fix the heading in #46.

Thank you

To #42
June 6, 2013 4:01 pm

The point raised by #16 was not so much about the Rebbe’s views on themselves as much as it was to show that the Rebbe viewed doctors and pharmaceutical companies with no small measure of suspicion, as well as the point that the Rebbe’s views on medical matters could change with time based on new research that came to light. But you must also realize that your agreement that Antibiotics are overused flies in the face of the medical establishment’s teachings until just the past few years. You see, the research on the dangers of over-using antibiotics has been out… Read more »

to #38
June 6, 2013 12:11 pm

‘twould be nice if u ended your post a bit more politely

vaccines
June 6, 2013 10:35 am

Those of you saying “if you vaccinate your kids then why are you so worried about catching the disease from us who dont'”, or “shouldn’t the vaccine offer you protection then”, well the issue is that the first shot is only given at 12-15 months and the second at 4-6 years, and the third years later. So the greatest potential to catch the diseases are at a young age before vaccination or before full immunity has been achieved. So that’s why if they come into contact there is a risk. Also the Rebbe advised against over use of antibiotics and… Read more »

The Debate
June 6, 2013 8:21 am

between the gullibles vs not gullible.

to#37
June 6, 2013 8:10 am

Your comment makes me shake my head.

The M.M.R myth exposed. Dr. James Wakefield is vindicated.
June 6, 2013 4:39 am

http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/10/the-vaccine-hoax-is-over-freedom-of-information-act-documents-from-uk-reveal-30-years-of-coverup/ Andrew Baker ( FFN),- Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have 1. Known the vaccines don’t work 2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent 3. Known they are a hazard to children 4. Colluded to lie to the public 5. Worked to prevent safety studies Those are the same vaccines that are mandated to children in the US. Educated parents can either get their children out of harm’s way or continue living inside one of the largest… Read more »

Schools should require vaccinations
June 5, 2013 11:28 pm

to protect pregnant teachers from being exposed.
so that they don’t miscarry c:v or have a baby born deaf c”v,
both of which I know have happened.

If you think you have something to say, first research the following topics:
June 5, 2013 11:26 pm

1. The Vaccine Settlement Court 2. Most cases of polio being reclassified as meningitis in the late 1950s. 3. Look up every single one of the diseases that vaccinations are for, all symptoms, worst case scenarios, best case scenarios, and statistics for long term effects. 4. Find all the ingredients in every vaccine and look them up. 5. Spend some time on the CDC vaccination website. 6. Look up Merck and the MMR II and MMR III 7. Research the effects of catching these illnesses in childhood vs as an adult. 8. Learn about the immune system, how vaccines build… Read more »

PS: Andrew Wakefield Yimach Shemo
June 5, 2013 10:40 pm

…is personally responsible for thousands of children getting sick or dying, and hundreds of thousands of parents panicking and worrying, all so he could make some money. He should burn in hell, and so should anyone who spreads his lies, especially now that he’s been exposed and they KNOW he was lying.

#33, anyone can win a lawsuit
June 5, 2013 10:38 pm

You just need to be lucky and get a jury that is stupid, gullible, dishonest, or all three.

That said, why don’t you cite a few examples of these suits you claim were won? I’m skeptical that they exist.

wow
June 5, 2013 10:36 pm

Just found this online when searching about the mmr vaccine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7kbWfsygG4&sns=tw

#32, Andrew Wakefield is not a doctor -- any more
June 5, 2013 10:36 pm

He was struck off, because his FRAUD was discovered. So if you quote him you automatically lose.

The Rebbe's Opinion on Vaccines
June 5, 2013 10:29 pm

The Rebbe clearly instructs parents to vaccinate their children in multiple letters printed in Likkutei Sichos vo. 36 p. 332

You can view it in the link below:

http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=15958&st=&pgnum=346&hilite=

It is consistent with the Rebbe’s encouragement to put emphasis on preventive medicine, and vaccines are obviously in that category.

So if vaccines are fine...
June 5, 2013 10:05 pm

How come several lawsuits (re: vaccine relatsd damages) against Pharma have been won???

Watch this before you Vaccinate!
June 5, 2013 9:42 pm

Dr. Andrew Wakefield response to the measles outbreak in South Wales http://t.co/L6P8f5eBKg via @youtube

Dr. Andrew Wakefield response to the measles outbreak in South Wales
youtube.com
Dr Wakefield responds to UK public health officials call for censorship on MMR vaccine safety debate, measles vaccine failure, and issues a further challenge…

to #28
June 5, 2013 8:07 pm

If everyone is vaccinated, no one will get the virus anymore. Must i show you the numbers? It’s humans vs. virus in this world and we can win by getting vaccinated. (if you can’t get a vaccine, for health reasons, that’s a different story). But chas v’sholom we lose the fight against disease!

to #25
June 5, 2013 6:48 pm

If your doctor has advised you not to vaccinate your children because they have a much greater risk of having an adverse reaction to the vaccine then obviously you should heed that advice. My suspicion is that your doctor did not advise you of this but rather you have decided based on some of your own “research” that you family is more endangered than everyone else. As to the foolish position that “if vaccines work then what do you care if I don’t vaccinate” which has been voiced a few times by the anti-vaccine people, here’s the way it works:… Read more »

to #26
June 5, 2013 6:13 pm

How someone selfish if they don’t vaccinate? Just vaccinate your own family and you will be fine. It seems you can just “live and let live”, no?

… unless you’re afraid the vaccinated kids are still susceptible to the disease, and are endangered by the unvaccinated. But… then what is the point of vaccinating in the first place, if it’s ineffective. Not following….

to # 16
June 5, 2013 6:07 pm

I agree!
To those who are not informed, do your research! I heard a lecture against vaccines from a doctor who used to give vaccines and at the same time was putting fathers in prison for shaken baby syndrome or any excuse she could think of, many years later she is eating herself up with guilt for assuming and getting innocent people in trouble. after extensive research, she linked many problems to vaccines. So please do your own research!

#25
June 5, 2013 5:43 pm

If your kids have a genuine medical reason for not being vaccinated, that’s obviously different. But you should be in the forefront of insisting that everyone else get vaccinated, because your own kids’ safety depends on everyone else being vaccinated. Every unvaccinated kid is a threat to your kids. You should not allow your kids to be in the company of anyone else who was not vaccinated.

Vaccines DO work, but they’re not 100% effective — nothing in life is. So even the vaccinated are in some small danger if herd immunity fails.

selfish????
June 5, 2013 4:20 pm

yes, if you dont vaccinate you are selfish.
Period.

stop putting others (and yourselves) in danger!

All pro-vaccine people please answer this!
June 5, 2013 3:56 pm

So because my family has a hereditary auto immune disorder that prevents our kids from getting vaccinated–as advised by medical professionals–you advocate my kids not be allowed in our schools or camps?

I thought vaccines WORK? So what are you afraid of?

#19, the link to a nutcase web site
June 5, 2013 3:09 pm

What are the odds that the owner of that site also believes in at least two of the following: 1) the moon landings were faked; 2) the 9/11/2001 attacks were faked; 3) chemtrails; 4) alien abductions; 5) the bermuda triangle; 6) aspartame is poisonous; 7) the CIA created AIDS; 8) the CIA invented crack cocaine; 9) homeopathy; 10) feng shui.

Comment from a Doctor
June 5, 2013 3:01 pm

Source: Merck Manual (Most Respected Medical Text In The World) The Merck Manual states that the severity of measles is directly related to Vitamin A deficiency (which practically doesn’t exist in the United States, unless the child eats candy and soda all day). Next, the Merck Manual points out that the infection lasts 3 to 5 days with symptoms of a coryza (common cold). With complications such as encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) mainly occurring in the malnourished and immunocompromised. The Mayo Clinic points out: “If you’ve already had measles, your body has built up its immune system to fight… Read more »

#19
June 5, 2013 2:28 pm
to 19. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
June 5, 2013 1:49 pm

That is one individual’s website, not a reputable news site. that article is obviously one person promoting their opinion, not real journalism in any way, shape or form. There’s no way of telling whether the information on it is reliable.

If you want to present information, give me a real study, don’t go posting these weird iffy sites that no one’s ever heard of.

Mortality rates
June 5, 2013 1:00 pm

Have dropped massively over the past century due to vaccination. This is the fact. The overwhelming majority of medical professionals advocate vaccination. Not doing so does not just affect yourself, it affects others by causing the virus to spread.

finally some ppl with an informed opinion, thanks #16, 17 etc
June 5, 2013 12:09 pm
DANGER!! DONT VACCINATE!!
June 5, 2013 11:48 am

and you might run into a risk of loosing your child.

for those anti vaccinationists: if you vaccinate your “might” “contract” ASD. if you don’t vaccinate your child may end up being a tombstone in montefiore cemetery.

A decision you gotta make.
oh and if you don’t vaccinate you will endanger my kids, the medical office personnel, people in shul, school and in stores as well as Hatzalah members that will be called in to aid your dying child.

To #6
June 5, 2013 11:15 am

I know someone whose perfectly healthy nephew went brain dead the day after receiving the Chicken Pox vaccine. Coincidence in timing? I think not…

All these tragedies are indeed unfortunate… And the decisions parents face in order to protect their children are painful and difficult. But we must stop demonizing those parents who make decisions different than our own.

And if you do vaccinate your children, then stop fearing the kids who aren’t vaccinated. If you want to be scientific, then be scientific all the way! If your kid is vaccinated you should have nothing to worry about.

To #3 - THE REBBE'S VIEW ON VACCINES AND C.H. DOCTORS
June 5, 2013 11:11 am

See the Kehos book, Healthy in Mind, Body and Spirit, vol.2, page 129, where, in 1960, the Rebbe warns against the over-use of anti-biotics, based on new medical research that came to light at that time. The Rebbe says specifically NOT TO RELY SOLELY YOUR DOCTOR, and I quote (the Kehos translation): “It would be particularly beneficial for you to encourage him (the doctor) to check this out specifically with those who have been actively researching this matter, since by and large practicing doctors do not have too much time for research. [This is] particularly so, since the drug companies… Read more »

vccinated? don't complain
June 5, 2013 11:08 am

As reported, Measles appeared in children that were not vaccinated. So if you vaccinated your kids, what are you worried about. Don’t tell other people what to do

go vaccinate your kids!!!!
June 5, 2013 10:44 am

What is the opt out clause for” religious reasons”. What do these people say? Why can’t you get vaccinated if you are religious? I just don’t understand, it doesn’t say anywhere that you can’t get vaccinated. These people not only put their own children at risk but communities at large as well. Our religion does not forbid vaccination. I just had to do an extensive research paper for college about vaccinations and side effects, and I read many scholarly articles about the MMR and Autism link, which has been disproven.

wow
June 5, 2013 10:35 am

This kind of thing always gets me. Vaccines should be a no brainer! It’s been proven that all the negative things that are spoken about aren’t true, so why do families continue not to take them! Just look at the facts, before vaccines, people were dying left and right (literally) and now there not. Trust in your doctor and science based medicine!

Daloy Stupidty
June 5, 2013 10:25 am

It is time that the ethically challenged and halchically questionable cult of anti-vaccination end in our community.

Parents, protect your children and make sure that they are inoculated. Don’t let tinfoil-hatters send you to fringe websites and convince you to
think for yourself” – listen to the experts the CDC and WHO and save lives!

To #7
June 5, 2013 10:04 am

Amen!

learn before u speak
June 5, 2013 10:03 am

The average doctor and nurse have little to no training and expertise about whether vaccines work or are safe. The profession that is supposed to handle such questions is Epidemiology, which depends largely on gathering data and using statistics to analyze that data. I have asked family doctors in both Crown Heights and Boro Park for information on why to immunize. I have also searched the web for such information. The local doctors lack this information, and I could not find it on the web. What I found is that none of the pro-vaccine people will provide any scientific evidence.… Read more »

You have a moral obligation to vaccinate your child!
June 5, 2013 9:55 am

Parents – you have a moral obligation to vaccinate your child. I vaccinate mine and because enough of society does as well your children are protected.

Because so many in our families in the frum community buy into the lies perpetrated by a group of uninformed, small minded opinions of a few are bringing back dreaded machlas that can be eradicated.

School & Camps – you can stop this – DO NOT TAKE ANY CHILD THAT IS NOT VACCINATED! Stop giving them a way out that puts my child at risk.

A concerned parent

Sorry Hindy Lewis
June 5, 2013 9:47 am

They no longer offer single shots for measles, mumps, and rubella. Hence the reason SO MANY parents refuse the MMR vaccine.

schools
June 5, 2013 9:10 am

all schools must unite and not accept children without vaccinations. These kids put everyone else risk

Hindy Lewis
June 5, 2013 7:17 am

PLEASE….vaccinate. I saw a 15 year old boy in a hospital bed, completely comatose. His mother told me he caught measles and the virus went into his brain. Rare, but not unheard of. At the time I had a 4 month old & she begged me to make sure I vaccinate, that this shouldn’t happen to my child. The image of him laying there will stay with me for ever. Re all the controversy over the “triple” vaccination…I just made sure my children had 3 separate shots. More painful at the time (they were done during the same visit) but… Read more »

london
June 5, 2013 7:08 am

if you are a adult you can not have a mmr shot
so what can the do tell me more thank you

Blame the City!!
June 5, 2013 7:07 am

They give an opt-out clause for “religious reasons” so these left-wing liberal tree hugging parents who refuse to vaccinate still get their kids into school. They beat the law.

#2 there is nothing to investigate
June 5, 2013 5:49 am

Do you take a medical degree before letting a doctor treat you or your child in any other way?! Vaccinations are a no-brainer. The medical evidence for them is overwhelming, and against them nonexistent. Anything you read against them is 100% guaranteed to be lies. And if you can’t tell that they’re lies, then that’s the biggest proof that you are not qualified to do this “independent research” so you should just trust your doctor.

Be aware
June 5, 2013 1:18 am

Please please please learn everything about vaccines BEFORE vaccinating your children, investigate, do your independent research and do the best only to protect your kids health, but learn and inform yourself thoroughly, dont allow others to tell you what to do

ushmartem es nafshoseichem
June 5, 2013 12:01 am

please please please vacinate your children! This is a tragedy waiting to happen R”L, and only YOU can protect your children by having them vacinated.

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