Jun 4, 2013
Measles Outbreak in Frum Areas

NYC issues vaccine recommendations as 48 cases of measles occurred in the frum community in Boro Park and Williamsburg.

Notice by Department of Health of New York City:

ALERT # 15: Update on Measles in New York City: New Vaccine Recommendations

1) 48 cases of measles have occurred in the Orthodox Jewish community residing in Borough Park and Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

2) Because measles cases continue to occur, particularly among young infants, healthcare providers should now administer the first dose of MMR vaccine to all Orthodox Jewish children aged 6 months and older living in Borough Park, Williamsburg, and Crown Heights.

Distribute to All Primary Care, Infectious Disease, Emergency Medicine, Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, Family Medicine, OB/GYN, Laboratory and Infection Control Staff

There continues to be ongoing measles transmission among the Orthodox Jewish communities in Borough Park and Williamsburg, Brooklyn. To date, there have been 48 confirmed cases, including 28 in Borough Park and 20 in Williamsburg. Additional suspected cases are being investigated. In recent weeks, cases have begun occurring in younger children. During the past month, the median age of cases has declined to 2 years (age range 10 months – 17 years) with 19% aged less than 12 months, 52% aged 12 months to 4 years, and 29% aged 5 – 18 years. All cases were in persons who were unvaccinated at the time of exposure, because they were too young to have been vaccinated or because their parents delayed or refused vaccine for their children. Over 2,000 identified people have been exposed to measles in households (through relatives or friends), apartment buildings, and medical provider offices.

Measles transmission has been sustained by two factors: a large pool of susceptible children under 12 months of age and large family and communal gatherings. To interrupt the spread of measles in this community, the Health Department recommends that the first dose of measles-mumps-rubella-vaccine (MMR) now be given at 6 months of age to all Orthodox Jewish children living in Borough Park, Williamsburg, and Crown Heights.

Although cases of measles have not yet been identified in Crown Heights, we are extending this recommendation to this community to prevent introduction of measles. Further, non-Orthodox children receiving medical care in practices that serve predominantly Orthodox Jewish patients, should also receive MMR vaccine beginning at 6 months of age because of the increased risk of exposure.

A dose of MMR vaccine given prior to the first birthday (there is a 4 day grace period) will not be considered a valid dose in the Citywide Immunization Registry (CIR) or for daycare or school entry. Infants who receive MMR vaccine before their first birthday should receive an additional dose at 12 months of age as long as 28 days have passed after the initial vaccine dose. These children will still require a ‘second valid’ dose prior to school entry at 4 – 6 years of age.

In the setting of this outbreak, Orthodox Jewish children aged 12 months and older living in Borough Park, Williamsburg, and Crown Heights who have received their first dose of MMR should receive their second MMR dose now, as long as 28 days has elapsed after the first dose. This second dose will be considered valid and will count toward the school immunization requirements.

Vaccination at an earlier age is recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for outbreak control when many cases are occurring among infants <12 months of age. This will increase the proportion of infants who are protected against measles. Ninety five percent of infants who were 6 months old at the time of vaccination demonstrated a response to the vaccine as measured by cell mediated immunity and/or seroconversion (Gans et al. JID 2004;190:83-90). The same study documented that an infant’s ability to respond to a second dose of MMR is not compromised by early administration of vaccine. MMR vaccination of children 6 – 11 months of age who will be traveling overseas is already a routine Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommendation and is considered safe.

Information about reporting suspect cases of measles, laboratory testing, isolation of suspected or confirmed cases, or post-exposure prophylaxis recommendations have been previously sent and are available at http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/diseases/immmea.shtml

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ushmartem es nafshoseichem
please please please vacinate your children! This is a tragedy waiting to happen R"L, and only YOU can protect your children by having them vacinated.
(6/5/2013 12:01:17 AM)
Be aware
Please please please learn everything about vaccines BEFORE vaccinating your children, investigate, do your independent research and do the best only to protect your kids health, but learn and inform yourself thoroughly, dont allow others to tell you what to do
(6/5/2013 1:18:23 AM)
#2 there is nothing to investigate
Do you take a medical degree before letting a doctor treat you or your child in any other way?! Vaccinations are a no-brainer. The medical evidence for them is overwhelming, and against them nonexistent. Anything you read against them is 100% guaranteed to be lies. And if you can't tell that they're lies, then that's the biggest proof that you are not qualified to do this "independent research" so you should just trust your doctor.
(6/5/2013 5:49:41 AM)
Blame the City!!
They give an opt-out clause for "religious reasons" so these left-wing liberal tree hugging parents who refuse to vaccinate still get their kids into school. They beat the law.
(6/5/2013 7:07:51 AM)
if you are a adult you can not have a mmr shot
so what can the do tell me more thank you
(6/5/2013 7:08:19 AM)
Hindy Lewis
PLEASE....vaccinate. I saw a 15 year old boy in a hospital bed, completely comatose. His mother told me he caught measles and the virus went into his brain. Rare, but not unheard of. At the time I had a 4 month old & she begged me to make sure I vaccinate, that this shouldn't happen to my child. The image of him laying there will stay with me for ever.

Re all the controversy over the "triple" vaccination...I just made sure my children had 3 separate shots. More painful at the time (they were done during the same visit) but it was simple to arrange and I didn't have to worry if the autism link was valid or not.

Protect your children! Make sure they are up to date with ALL vaccinations, including chicken pox (which is incredibly painful & potentially dangerous as well!) Don't do these "pox parties." Why should your children suffer needlessly?
(6/5/2013 7:17:50 AM)
all schools must unite and not accept children without vaccinations. These kids put everyone else risk
(6/5/2013 9:10:55 AM)
Sorry Hindy Lewis
They no longer offer single shots for measles, mumps, and rubella. Hence the reason SO MANY parents refuse the MMR vaccine.
(6/5/2013 9:47:39 AM)
You have a moral obligation to vaccinate your child!
Parents - you have a moral obligation to vaccinate your child. I vaccinate mine and because enough of society does as well your children are protected.

Because so many in our families in the frum community buy into the lies perpetrated by a group of uninformed, small minded opinions of a few are bringing back dreaded machlas that can be eradicated.

School & Camps - you can stop this - DO NOT TAKE ANY CHILD THAT IS NOT VACCINATED! Stop giving them a way out that puts my child at risk.

A concerned parent
(6/5/2013 9:55:11 AM)
learn before u speak
The average doctor and nurse have little to no training and expertise about whether vaccines work or are safe. The profession that is supposed to handle such questions is Epidemiology, which depends largely on gathering data and using statistics to analyze that data. I have asked family doctors in both Crown Heights and Boro Park for information on why to immunize. I have also searched the web for such information. The local doctors lack this information, and I could not find it on the web. What I found is that none of the pro-vaccine people will provide any scientific evidence. In the large amount of material I reviewed, which was given to me by doctors and published on the CDC (Center for Disease Control) website, is that they just keep repeating the line, "It's dangerous if you don't!" But, they offer no proof. In fact, on the CDC website, you can find the history of various disease breakouts, including measles, in which the vast majority of those contracting the illness were in fact vaccinated. There are terrible stories of rare cases described by #6, but there are also terrible results from vaccines. I'm not referring to connections to autism, etc., which have still not be proven. You can check the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) run by the government. Keep in mind that even the govt assumes that the number of adverse vaccine reactions is grossly underreported to VAERS. To #3 and #4, your style of writing does more to reveal your lack of understanding than anything I could write. I will just add that I have actually downloaded government produced data on diseases to compare it to data presented on anti-vaccine websites and found it to be accurate. This data I verified clearly shows that the prevalence of most of the infectious diseases for which a vaccine exists had already decreased by over 90% during the 40-50 years before the introduction of the corresponding vaccine. I am not a statistician, but have studied the subject and use it regularly in my work. I know enough to understand that data like I quoted above have real implications regarding the efficacy of vaccinations. The comments section on col is not the place for an in depth scholarly debate. I just felt compelled to add a bit of reason to what is otherwise just a collection of emotional knee-jerk rants. .
(6/5/2013 10:03:02 AM)
To #7
(6/5/2013 10:04:41 AM)
Daloy Stupidty
It is time that the ethically challenged and halchically questionable cult of anti-vaccination end in our community.

Parents, protect your children and make sure that they are inoculated. Don't let tinfoil-hatters send you to fringe websites and convince you to
think for yourself" - listen to the experts the CDC and WHO and save lives!
(6/5/2013 10:25:34 AM)
This kind of thing always gets me. Vaccines should be a no brainer! It's been proven that all the negative things that are spoken about aren't true, so why do families continue not to take them! Just look at the facts, before vaccines, people were dying left and right (literally) and now there not. Trust in your doctor and science based medicine!
(6/5/2013 10:35:55 AM)
go vaccinate your kids!!!!
What is the opt out clause for" religious reasons". What do these people say? Why can't you get vaccinated if you are religious? I just don't understand, it doesn't say anywhere that you can't get vaccinated. These people not only put their own children at risk but communities at large as well. Our religion does not forbid vaccination. I just had to do an extensive research paper for college about vaccinations and side effects, and I read many scholarly articles about the MMR and Autism link, which has been disproven.
(6/5/2013 10:44:19 AM)
vccinated? don't complain
As reported, Measles appeared in children that were not vaccinated. So if you vaccinated your kids, what are you worried about. Don't tell other people what to do
(6/5/2013 11:08:07 AM)
See the Kehos book, Healthy in Mind, Body and Spirit, vol.2, page 129, where, in 1960, the Rebbe warns against the over-use of anti-biotics, based on new medical research that came to light at that time. The Rebbe says specifically NOT TO RELY SOLELY YOUR DOCTOR, and I quote (the Kehos translation): "It would be particularly beneficial for you to encourage him (the doctor) to check this out specifically with those who have been actively researching this matter, since by and large practicing doctors do not have too much time for research. [This is] particularly so, since the drug companies that manufacture these antibiotics are not at all interested in such research, as can readily be understood, [as it would lower their sales, etc.]."

The Rebbe clearly acknowledges that doctors, while they are well-meaning, are not to be relied upon for such questions, and that the drug companies certainly cannot be relied upon to provide accurate information either to the public or to the doctors themselves.

As far as the handful of letters in the same book in which the Rebbe supports the use of the polio vaccine, the Rebbe is speaking about only one type of vaccine in the 1950s, (which actually did ultimately have negative side effects...) One cannot extrapolate from there that the Rebbe would have supported all the vaccines that are administered today, in the multiple combinations and at the younger and younger ages that they are now given.

Rabbi Groner, who I consulted years ago on the matter, claims the Rebbe supported the use of vaccines through the 1980s. HOWEVER, being that all the research about the potential dangers of vaccines only came to public awareness AFTER GIMMEL TAMMUZ, we cannot assume the Rebbe himself would have maintained his earlier stance. The Rebbe was very conservative when it came to medicine (see Healthy in Mind, Body and Spirit, vol 2, page 22, footnote 4), and we cannot presume to know if he would have continued to endorse vaccines after evidence of their dangers came to light.

And if you'll argue that the Rebbe would never change his mind on any matter (playing the "ruach hakodesh card"), I can only point you back to the first letter I mentioned above about anitbiotics and ask you: Did the Rebbe warn against anti-biotics in the 1950s, before the new research about their dangers came to light in 1960? Probably not.

And as far as disinformation in this very community, when the mumps outbreak happened four years ago, the three major doctors of the community sent out a signed letter to all the schools blaming the outbreak on unvaccinated children. They first stated that the disease was taking root and "gaining velocity" (sic) in the unvaccinated kids, and then spreading even to the vaccinated kids. They then added in that perhaps the mumps epidemic was a new strain which nobody was vaccinated against. In short, they first threw out a completely unscientific statement blaming unvaccinated kids, and then added in the fact that perhaps the vaccines that kids did receive were useless.

A few weeks later, there was an outrage in the comments on COL when they published a headline that one local doctor had supposedly asked schools to no longer accept new kids that were unvaccinated. Without getting into the entire debate that ensued, which pitted neighbors and friends against each other, the was never a report that just a few weeks later, the very same doctor's office posted on its front desk that the TRUE cause of the outbreak was that the mumps vaccine wears off after a certain number of years, and that one must get another dose when one reaches teenage-hood. Guess what! According to reports at the time, the mumps outbreak began amongst the VACCINATED TEENAGE BOYS of Crown Heights, not the unvaccinated kindergarteners.

The bottom line is, there is in fact a lot of disinformation out there about vaccines, even from the medical establishment. I would be curious to know who is reporting that the measles outbreak in this case is entirely amongst the unvaccinated. Only time will tell.

But stop beating up parents who are wary. In my experience, it is the parents who HAVE done their research who are wary of vaccines, while the parents who endorse them so passionately have not done ANY research of their own.

(6/5/2013 11:11:11 AM)
To #6
I know someone whose perfectly healthy nephew went brain dead the day after receiving the Chicken Pox vaccine. Coincidence in timing? I think not...

All these tragedies are indeed unfortunate... And the decisions parents face in order to protect their children are painful and difficult. But we must stop demonizing those parents who make decisions different than our own.

And if you do vaccinate your children, then stop fearing the kids who aren't vaccinated. If you want to be scientific, then be scientific all the way! If your kid is vaccinated you should have nothing to worry about.

(6/5/2013 11:15:38 AM)
and you might run into a risk of loosing your child.

for those anti vaccinationists: if you vaccinate your "might" "contract" ASD. if you don't vaccinate your child may end up being a tombstone in montefiore cemetery.

A decision you gotta make.
oh and if you don't vaccinate you will endanger my kids, the medical office personnel, people in shul, school and in stores as well as Hatzalah members that will be called in to aid your dying child.
(6/5/2013 11:48:16 AM)
(6/5/2013 12:09:23 PM)
Mortality rates
Have dropped massively over the past century due to vaccination. This is the fact. The overwhelming majority of medical professionals advocate vaccination. Not doing so does not just affect yourself, it affects others by causing the virus to spread.
(6/5/2013 1:00:39 PM)
to 19. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
That is one individual's website, not a reputable news site. that article is obviously one person promoting their opinion, not real journalism in any way, shape or form. There's no way of telling whether the information on it is reliable.

If you want to present information, give me a real study, don't go posting these weird iffy sites that no one's ever heard of.
(6/5/2013 1:49:04 PM)
(6/5/2013 2:28:57 PM)
Comment from a Doctor
Source: Merck Manual (Most Respected Medical Text In The World)

The Merck Manual states that the severity of measles is directly related to Vitamin A deficiency (which practically doesn't exist in the United States, unless the child eats candy and soda all day).

Next, the Merck Manual points out that the infection lasts 3 to 5 days with symptoms of a coryza (common cold). With complications such as encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) mainly occurring in the malnourished and immunocompromised.

The Mayo Clinic points out: "If you've already had measles, your body has built up its immune system to fight the infection, and you can't get measles again. Most people born or living in the United States before 1957 are immune to measles, simply because they've already had it."

Medicine has become dangerous in the sense that it is all based off liability, which leads to doctors doing the same thing to every single patient. Thank G-d for the Internet. I love when my patients come in and are more educated about their condition than I am. Most doctors take that as an insult to their ego.

At the end of the day vaccinations are a very controversial and sensitive issue because no parent wants to believe that they are harming their child. That being said, lets respect each others decisions.
(6/5/2013 3:01:09 PM)
#19, the link to a nutcase web site
What are the odds that the owner of that site also believes in at least two of the following: 1) the moon landings were faked; 2) the 9/11/2001 attacks were faked; 3) chemtrails; 4) alien abductions; 5) the bermuda triangle; 6) aspartame is poisonous; 7) the CIA created AIDS; 8) the CIA invented crack cocaine; 9) homeopathy; 10) feng shui.
(6/5/2013 3:09:03 PM)
All pro-vaccine people please answer this!
So because my family has a hereditary auto immune disorder that prevents our kids from getting vaccinated--as advised by medical professionals--you advocate my kids not be allowed in our schools or camps?

I thought vaccines WORK? So what are you afraid of?
(6/5/2013 3:56:18 PM)
yes, if you dont vaccinate you are selfish.

stop putting others (and yourselves) in danger!
(6/5/2013 4:20:18 PM)
If your kids have a genuine medical reason for not being vaccinated, that's obviously different. But you should be in the forefront of insisting that everyone else get vaccinated, because your own kids' safety depends on everyone else being vaccinated. Every unvaccinated kid is a threat to your kids. You should not allow your kids to be in the company of anyone else who was not vaccinated.

Vaccines DO work, but they're not 100% effective -- nothing in life is. So even the vaccinated are in some small danger if herd immunity fails.
(6/5/2013 5:43:16 PM)
to # 16
I agree!
To those who are not informed, do your research! I heard a lecture against vaccines from a doctor who used to give vaccines and at the same time was putting fathers in prison for shaken baby syndrome or any excuse she could think of, many years later she is eating herself up with guilt for assuming and getting innocent people in trouble. after extensive research, she linked many problems to vaccines. So please do your own research!
(6/5/2013 6:07:46 PM)
to #26
How someone selfish if they don't vaccinate? Just vaccinate your own family and you will be fine. It seems you can just "live and let live", no?

... unless you're afraid the vaccinated kids are still susceptible to the disease, and are endangered by the unvaccinated. But... then what is the point of vaccinating in the first place, if it's ineffective. Not following....
(6/5/2013 6:13:29 PM)
to #25
If your doctor has advised you not to vaccinate your children because they have a much greater risk of having an adverse reaction to the vaccine then obviously you should heed that advice. My suspicion is that your doctor did not advise you of this but rather you have decided based on some of your own "research" that you family is more endangered than everyone else.

As to the foolish position that "if vaccines work then what do you care if I don't vaccinate" which has been voiced a few times by the anti-vaccine people, here's the way it works: Vaccines are not 100% effective rather they're close to 90% effective. As a result of this, if 100% of people vaccinate then those diseases disappear. Once larger groups stop vaccinating, they come back (ala the mumps which was all over the frum communities on the east coast and now measles). Many vaccinated kids got the mumps because they were exposed to the actual virus. Even in those cases, the vaccine will usually cause the virus to be weaker but being that vaccines don't protect 100% the only way to make sure that the virus is eradicated is if everyone vaccinates. So yes, if you don't vaccinate you're endangering my child and you should keep your kid home from school. The exception would be when medically someone can't vaccinate. The vast majority of the CH people that don't vaccinate are going AGAINST their doctor's orders not following their doctors orders.
(6/5/2013 6:48:13 PM)
to #28
If everyone is vaccinated, no one will get the virus anymore. Must i show you the numbers? It's humans vs. virus in this world and we can win by getting vaccinated. (if you can't get a vaccine, for health reasons, that's a different story). But chas v'sholom we lose the fight against disease!
(6/5/2013 8:07:24 PM)
So if vaccines are fine...
How come several lawsuits (re: vaccine relatsd damages) against Pharma have been won???
(6/5/2013 10:05:21 PM)
The Rebbe's Opinion on Vaccines
The Rebbe clearly instructs parents to vaccinate their children in multiple letters printed in Likkutei Sichos vo. 36 p. 332

You can view it in the link below:


It is consistent with the Rebbe's encouragement to put emphasis on preventive medicine, and vaccines are obviously in that category.
(6/5/2013 10:29:00 PM)
#32, Andrew Wakefield is not a doctor -- any more
He was struck off, because his FRAUD was discovered. So if you quote him you automatically lose.
(6/5/2013 10:36:02 PM)
Just found this online when searching about the mmr vaccine

(6/5/2013 10:36:42 PM)
#33, anyone can win a lawsuit
You just need to be lucky and get a jury that is stupid, gullible, dishonest, or all three.

That said, why don't you cite a few examples of these suits you claim were won? I'm skeptical that they exist.
(6/5/2013 10:38:04 PM)
PS: Andrew Wakefield Yimach Shemo
...is personally responsible for thousands of children getting sick or dying, and hundreds of thousands of parents panicking and worrying, all so he could make some money. He should burn in hell, and so should anyone who spreads his lies, especially now that he's been exposed and they KNOW he was lying.
(6/5/2013 10:40:08 PM)
If you think you have something to say, first research the following topics:
1. The Vaccine Settlement Court

2. Most cases of polio being reclassified as meningitis in the late 1950s.

3. Look up every single one of the diseases that vaccinations are for, all symptoms, worst case scenarios, best case scenarios, and statistics for long term effects.

4. Find all the ingredients in every vaccine and look them up.

5. Spend some time on the CDC vaccination website.

6. Look up Merck and the MMR II and MMR III

7. Research the effects of catching these illnesses in childhood vs as an adult.

8. Learn about the immune system, how vaccines build immunity and how the immune system functions in the modern day world diet and environment.

Then you can make an INFORMED decision on the risks vs benefits of vaccines. Until then, shut your mouth
(6/5/2013 11:26:02 PM)
Schools should require vaccinations
to protect pregnant teachers from being exposed.
so that they don't miscarry c:v or have a baby born deaf c"v,
both of which I know have happened.
(6/5/2013 11:28:52 PM)
The M.M.R myth exposed. Dr. James Wakefield is vindicated.
Andrew Baker ( FFN),- Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have

1. Known the vaccines don’t work
2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent
3. Known they are a hazard to children
4. Colluded to lie to the public
5. Worked to prevent safety studies

Those are the same vaccines that are mandated to children in the US.
Educated parents can either get their children out of harm’s way or continue living inside one of the largest most evil lies in history, that vaccines – full of heavy metals, viral diseases, mycoplasma, fecal material, DNA fragments from other species, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (a sterilizing agent) – are a miracle of modern medicine.
Freedom of Information Act filed in the US with the CDC by a doctor with an autistic son, seeking information on what the CDC knows about the dangers of vaccines, had by law to be responded to in 20 days. Nearly 7 years later, the doctor went to court and the CDC argued it does not have to turn over documents. A judge ordered the CDC to turn over the documents on September 30th, 2011.
On October 26, 2011, a Denver Post editorial expressed shock that the Obama administration, after promising to be especially transparent, was proposing changes to the Freedom of Information Act that would allow it to go beyond declaring some documents secret and to actually allow government agencies (such as the CDC) to declare some document “non-existent.”

Simultaneous to this on-going massive CDC cover up involving its primary “health” not recommendation but MANDATE for American children, the CDC is in deep trouble over its decades of covering up the damaging effects of fluoride and affecting the lives of all Americans, especially children and the immune compromised. Lawsuits are being prepared. Children are ingesting 3-4 times more fluoride by body weight as adults and “[t]he sheer number of potentially harmed citizens — persons with dental fluorosis, kidney patients tipped into needing dialysis, diabetics, thyroid patients, etc — numbers in the millions.”
The CDC is obviously acting against the health of the American people. But the threat to the lives of the American people posed by the CDC’s behavior does not stop there. It participated in designed pandemic laws that are on the books in every state in the US, which arrange for the government to use military to force unknown, untested vaccines, drugs, chemicals, and “medical” treatments on the entire country if it declares a pandemic emergency.
The CDC’s credibility in declaring such a pandemic emergency is non-existent, again based on Freedom of Information Act. For in 2009, after the CDC had declared the H1N1 “pandemic,” the CDC refused to respond to Freedom of Information Act filed by CBS News and the CDC also attempted to block their investigation. What the CDC was hiding was its part in one of the largest medical scandals in history, putting out wildly exaggerated data on what it claimed were H1N1 cases, and by doing so, created the false impression of a “pandemic” in the US.
The CDC was also covering up e financial scandal to rival the bailout since the vaccines for the false pandemic cost the US billions. And worse, the CDC put pregnant women first in line for an untested vaccine with a sterilizing agent, polysorbate 80, in it. Thanks to the CDC, “the number of vaccine-related “fetal demise” reports increased by 2,440 percent in 2009 compared to previous years, which is even more shocking than the miscarriage statistic [700% increase].

The exposure of the vaccine hoax is running neck and neck with the much older hoax of a deadly 1918-19 flu. It was aspirin that killed people in 1918-19, not a pandemic flu. It was the greatest industrial catastrophe in human history with 20-50 million people dying but it was blamed on a flu. The beginning of the drug industry began with that success (and Monsanto was part of it). The flu myth was used by George Bush to threaten the world with “another pandemic flu that could kill millions” – a terror tactic to get pandemic laws on the books in every state and worldwide. Then the CDC used hoax of the pandemic hoax to create terror over H1N1 and to push deadly vaccines on the public, killing thousands of unborn children and others. (CDC will not release the data and continues to push the same vaccine.)

The hoax of the vaccine schedule is over, exposed by FOIAs in the UK.
The hoax of the CDC’s interest in children’s lives has been exposed by its refusal to respond to a doctor’s FOIAs around its knowledge of vaccine dangers.

The 1918-19 pandemic hoax has been exposed by Dr. Karen Starko’s work on aspirin’s role in killing people.
And despite refusing to respond to FOIAS, the CDC’s scandalous hoax of a 2009 flu pandemic and its part in creating it, was exposed by CBS NEWS.

And the Obama administration, in attempting to salvage the last vestige of secrecy around what is really happening with vaccines, by declaring agency documents non-existent, has made its claim of transparency, non-existent.

But pandemic laws arranging for unknown vaccines to be forced on the entire country are still in place with HHS creating a vaccine mixture that should never be used on anyone and all liability for vaccines having been removed. Meanwhile, a Canadian study has just proven that the flu vaccine containing the H1N1 vaccine which kills babies in utero, actually increases the risk of serious pandemic flu.

Americans who have been duped into submitting their children to the CDC’s deadly vaccines, have a means to respond now. People from every walk of life and every organization, must

1. take the information from the UK FOIAs exposing 30 years of vaccine lies, the refusal of the CDC to provide any information on what it knows about those lies, and the Obama Administration’s efforts to hide the CDC’s awareness of those lies, and go to their state legislatures, demand the immediate nullification of the CDC vaccine schedule and the pandemic laws.

2. inform every vet. active duty military person, law enforcement people, DHS agents and medical personnel they know, of the vaccine hoax, for their families are deeply threatened, too, but they may not be aware of it or that they have been folded into agency structures by the pharmaceutical industry (indistinguishable from the bankers and oil companies) that would make them agents of death for their country with the declaration of a “pandemic” emergency or “bio-terrorist” attack. It is completely clear now that the terrorism/bioterrorism structures are scams so that any actions taken to “protect” this country using those laws would in fact be what threatens the existence of Americans.

It was aspirin that killed millions in 1918-19. Now it is mandated and unknown, untested vaccines with banned adjuvants in them that threaten the country with millions of deaths. At the same time, the CDC is holding 500,000 mega-coffins, built to be incinerated, on its property outside Atlanta. Not to put to fine a point on this, but it’s clear now that the CDC should not be involved in any way with public health.

Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), we know that vaccines are not a miracle of modern medicine. Any medical or government authority which insists vaccines prevent diseases is either ignorant of government documents (and endless studies) revealing the exact opposite or of the CDC’s attempts to hide the truth about vaccines from the public, or means harm to the public.

Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), we know the vaccine schedule is a hoax.

The health danger to American children and adults are vaccines.
(6/6/2013 4:39:20 AM)
Your comment makes me shake my head.
(6/6/2013 8:10:36 AM)
The Debate
between the gullibles vs not gullible.
(6/6/2013 8:21:38 AM)
Those of you saying "if you vaccinate your kids then why are you so worried about catching the disease from us who dont'", or "shouldn't the vaccine offer you protection then", well the issue is that the first shot is only given at 12-15 months and the second at 4-6 years, and the third years later. So the greatest potential to catch the diseases are at a young age before vaccination or before full immunity has been achieved. So that's why if they come into contact there is a risk.

Also the Rebbe advised against over use of antibiotics and yes clearly that is very good advice. The over use of antibiotics in the USA in particular is frightening. Use them too much and you will become resistant and if a real need arises C'vS" the antibiotics will not help you. But antibiotics are not the same as vaccinations. I think the Rebbe was for vaccinating and taking advantage of the protection they offer.
(6/6/2013 10:35:56 AM)
to #38
'twould be nice if u ended your post a bit more politely
(6/6/2013 12:11:38 PM)
To #42
The point raised by #16 was not so much about the Rebbe's views on themselves as much as it was to show that the Rebbe viewed doctors and pharmaceutical companies with no small measure of suspicion, as well as the point that the Rebbe's views on medical matters could change with time based on new research that came to light.

But you must also realize that your agreement that Antibiotics are overused flies in the face of the medical establishment's teachings until just the past few years. You see, the research on the dangers of over-using antibiotics has been out there for decades. Proof positive: the Rebbe was already warning against it in 1960. But the medical establishment has only acknowledged these dangers in the last ten years!! This only adds support to those who are wary of the medical establishment's insistence that vaccines are safe, for it took the very same medical establishment almost 50 years to admit that it was dangerously administering antibiotics.
(6/6/2013 4:01:09 PM)
Is someone at COL switching the post numbers??!!

#44 was #42 before. Therefore, #46 is now in response to #44.

Please fix the numbers or fix the heading in #46.

Thank you
(6/6/2013 4:44:43 PM)
people waking up
Its soo nice to see, not all of u are fluorided and gmo'd to the point of continuing to live in this world of Sheker, theRebbe said "open your eyes" and that can mean a lot of things, the evil that surrounds us has no limits, and the pharma/medical INdustry is one of their tentacles in rder to achieve their "agenda 21" ......people open up your eyes, everything is out there, documented, all u need is an open mind ...thank u #41 and all the rest who can see beyond, the gullible will hve to wake up sometime soon, hopefully before their kid keep being abused in this horrible way!
(6/7/2013 1:03:43 AM)
BRAVO #16 and #17
(6/7/2013 1:03:39 PM)
(6/7/2013 1:11:55 PM)
#41, #19 already linked that same piece of garbage
Why did you feel the need to link it again and copy and paste the whole thing? Garbage doesn't smell any better the second time. Just because you saw it on some crackpot site doesn't make it true.

#45, Wakefield Yimach Shmo doesn't deserve politeness.

#48, it is you who is sunk in sheker. You are delusional if you think flouride or GMOs affect a peson's ability to think. It's hilarious to see gullible fools like you accuse normal people of being gullible. You're so afraid of being lied to by the "medical establishment" that you'll believe literally any quack, no matter how obviously deranged, so long as the body of medical expertise is against him! It's as if you think the more people who know what they're talking about agree with someone, the LESS likely they are to be correct! Literally kol tzorua vechol zov must be telling the truth, but not those who deal only in hard evidence; they must be lying. And they call us an "am chochom venovon"!
(6/7/2013 6:04:26 PM)
It's you who needs to wake up from thy slumber.
(6/7/2013 8:54:09 PM)
Too much disinformation, and not enough independent thinking
For whoever wrote the following, WAKE UP!
"Mortality rates
Have dropped massively over the past century due to vaccination. This is the fact. The overwhelming majority of medical professionals advocate vaccination. Not doing so does not just affect yourself, it affects others by causing the virus to spread. "

WRONG. the main reason diseases have been on the decline over the past century is due to improved sanitation, NOT vaccination. By the way, if vaccines work so well, what is the problem with an unvaccinated individual being amongst those who ARE vaccinated? Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime.

Secondly, whoever wrote the following has no sense, no ability to think critically, and is obviously ruled by fear

" schools
all schools must unite and not accept children without vaccinations. These kids put everyone else risk".

IF vaccinations work so well, then WHY would any child who is unvaccinated "put everyone else at risk"? If vaccines do what they are supposed to do (which they don't), then how could an unvaccinated child put everyone else at risk? Don't come at me with the argument that an unvaccinated person is a carrier, and that the virus or bacteria will change and become stronger because they are not vaccinated. I have heard that one dozens of times. Bacteria and viruses DO change, and become resistant to treatment, but it is due to the drugs and vaccines Doctors are using to try and kill it. Do you think the drug-resistant hospital infections are due to those who don't take antibiotics or are unvaccinated? NO. It is BECAUSE the bacteria and viruses are morphing and changing to stay alive DUE TO the rampant use of antibiotics and other bacteria and virus-killing substances. WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!

Vaccines "work" under the following beliefs: They are injected, the body creates an antibody to it, and the body is then immune.

THIS IS FLAWED SCIENCE. The vaccine makers have used this bunk to try and convince people (and many have taken the bait hook, line, and sinker) that vaccines work. The problem is this: this was disproven back in the 1930's. Antibodies DON'T prove immunity, only that the body has been EXPOSED to something. Some people have very high antibody titers and don't have any immunity. Others have very low antibody titers and ARE immune.

Injecting a needle into the skin and pumping the body full of junk isn't a magic bullet for health and immunity. But it is a magic bullet for wealth, and the pharmaceutical companies know it. They create widespread fear, and then tell everybody go get immunized against these vicious diseases.

Don't get me wrong - diseases exist, and they kill people. But not at the rate and severity they would like you to believe. What about the DPT vaccine? Do any of you know that diptheria, Pertussis, and Tetanus are toxin-mediated diseases? That these diseases are not cause by the bacteria, but the toxins given off by the bacteria as they die? You can vaccinate ALL DAY, and these diseases will NOT be prevented by vaccine. If this is the case, then WHY vaccinate for this? Because people don't know any better, and the drug companies can make BILLIONS.

Greed and power are the motivators, and those who control the information control the power. Power concedes nothing. Understand this now versus later.
(6/27/2013 5:03:55 PM)
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