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Rabbi Schochet’s Impassioned Call

"The Rosh" Rabbi Ezra Schochet used his speech at the Melave Malka of the Yarchei Kallah to make a forthright appeal to Yeshiva bochurim. He got a round of applause at the end. Full Story, Photos, Video

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1000 go in, only one will be a big Rov
August 17, 2012 1:58 pm

If that is the case, given the amount of yeshivas, and the fact that there is not one yeshiva only for metzuionim, it is a given that most of the yeshivas will get most of the students from the’ other 999, so makes sense to take care of them. As well as of the special one. And those special ones should be nurture

RY who cares
August 16, 2012 9:28 pm

Well kept secret – Rabbi Asher Farkash in Argentina

My 2 cents
August 16, 2012 12:54 am

Perhaps the RY are not able to relate to bochurim and their needs, but the question is, are they at least open and addressing the issue – that indeed they dont have the answers! Then, they can allow othe people to get involved and help. This might mean adjusting the system so boys can learn at their level and what interests them. In this sense, the RY need to be more open minded and take responsibility.

The Rosh!
August 15, 2012 7:54 pm

The Rosh speaks The Truth. Many of us can’t handle the truth. We live a lie, we talk in lies, and everything we do is a lie. When we hear the truth, we go into shock, rage and a bit meshuge. The truth makes us uncomfortable and we feel threatened by it. The Rosh knows this, and he davka will say the truth simply to bug you and shake you into reality. Thank him for being what he is and trying to make your sons into real human human beings and not the façade that we expect.

former student in new haven misivta
August 14, 2012 9:38 am

Rabbi Lustig, is most amazing menhale, he really cares about the bachrim. and he gives the bachrim all that he has

To #1
August 14, 2012 5:12 am

Sadly, you are correct.

My son, also good boy, just not a big masmid, is chasing yeshiva after yeshiva, to no avail.

In many yeshivos RY’s have given the reigns to kid mashgichim who just got married, who have no idea what children are as they are children themselves, and the RY has freed himself from any hard work.

to number 1
August 14, 2012 1:14 am

Rabbi Wagner (Toronto)is an outstanding ry. Who cares allot about the bochurim who are not as smart, and apparently the rosh is also

rainbow
August 14, 2012 1:12 am

Many people, many opinions.

I’m with #1.

There’s no talking to or about bochurim by anyone anywhere without it requiring full frontal acceptance that what yeshivos offer today and what is necessary for today are two different worlds.

The fact that the “Rosh” spoke in English underlines this point. Unfortunately, the content (message) and not just the vehicle (language) needs change.

As a holy man once said about the general golus – perhaps 1/2/3 people will do what’s necessary.

Until then wave after wave of minds and energy will feel their way blindfolded.

Likutei Sichos Chelek Daled - Parshos Aikev
August 13, 2012 10:46 pm

You may as well direct your criticism at The Rebbe. It was He who spoke these words. The Rosh was merely delivering The Rebbe’s message from 51 years ago. Almost verbatim.

The criticism and cynicism is just proof that you have more work to do in your personal avodos. Chodesh Elul is almost upon us. A spiritual reckoning is in order.

Good luck at that…

Fair
August 13, 2012 6:04 pm

The R.Y. brought the topic up so I think it is fair to talk about it.

to number 1
August 13, 2012 5:13 pm

I couldnt agree more

go the Rosh! The best Rosh Yeshiva in the World
August 13, 2012 4:22 pm

from a former la talmid

to # 1
August 13, 2012 3:50 pm

bs”d
the rosh!

everyone has a point
August 13, 2012 2:04 pm

everyone has pont and people in chinuch need to include everyone we all want to serve Hashem the right way and where can you learn to do that if not in yeshivah

Rabbi Schochet, not everyone can be a rabbi or dayan or melamed
August 13, 2012 1:28 pm

It’s a fact… most of the bochurim who will graduate out of Yeshiva will either look for a rabbi position which is already saturated to the hilt… or will seek out a job in mashgiach or sofros, and if that’s not feasible, will scramble to find “any job”. I’m sorry, not ever bochur can reach the heights of heights of chassidus, and live it day to day without stepping in this low world of parnoso.

to #1
August 13, 2012 1:16 pm

You do not know what you’re talking about. Of all people, the ROSH is one of the few people I know that really cares.

to num 1
August 13, 2012 1:03 pm

besides for the othyer comments, which were well written (numbers 2 and 3). im not sure if you know what the job of a rosh yeshiva is, it has nothing to do with phsycology, even if you do have complaints, its definitily not to the mishtatfim of yarchei kalla.

to zalman newman
August 13, 2012 12:58 pm

pshiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!

to # Two & # 3
August 13, 2012 12:56 pm

I know Love a fellow Jew is very hard. obviously this parent is hurting. And we know the system is not working the way we would like it. Rabbi Shochet is great, but some times its good to listen to a parent. Most RY have no clue what the parents want because most parents wont approach them as they feel…. Now is not the time to talk about any of these issues as THe yarchei Kalloh is what we should be talking about. It was very nice and the credit should go to R’ Yossi Futerfas for all his great… Read more »

we need
August 13, 2012 12:53 pm

more yeshivas like rabbi berger had in ottawa, ateres menachem, that was the best………

Chazzunis addict
August 13, 2012 12:18 pm

Never mind the speeches, can we get a video of Chazzan Lemmer? I heard he was awesome!

well said
August 13, 2012 11:27 am

well said rabbi shochot as always

to # 1
August 13, 2012 11:15 am

You are wrong, very wrong these yeshivos cater for a certain group of bochurim if there bochurim who are not fit for their yeshiva they should go elsewhere! dont send a bochur who wants to learn how to become a doctor to a yeshiva where they will teach him how to be a rabbi! blame the parents for not sending their children to the right school, you cant expect a school to change for the student and you say nobody cares?? thats why we have schools like rabbi O who do care and who do open schools for the students… Read more »

THERE'S A TIME & PLACE FOR EVERYTHING ...to #1
August 13, 2012 10:35 am

Dear Parent (whoever you are), you also want your kids to love and respect torah scholars,you’re dream would be that your kids would grow up one day and know as much torah as they do – so, at an event which is a celebration of torah scholarship ,can you please please leave your criticism behind ??? There are PLENTY of opportunities on col op-eds etc.etc.etc.,where we can all participate in the wonderful merry-go-round/hakofos of blaming the schools ,the teachers and the rosh yeshiva’s for the current crisis of the bochurim today… But P-U-L-E-E-Z ,can we just celebrate a kinus,sium or… Read more »

Big Deal
August 13, 2012 5:09 am

Very nice of the honorable RY to make this call….. The reality is that he together with most of the other RY’s are responsible for the steep decline and deteriation of our bochurim today. The RY’s are not interested in helping our kids grow; they want robots, and if not a ronbot, leave the Yeshiva… How many parents suffer in silence watching the imature, irresponsible and careless attitude hanhollas and RY’s have to our kids?! Find me 1 Rosh Yeshiva who has had the humility to take a course in teen phsycology? Show me 1 Rosh Yeshiva who CARES about… Read more »

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