In an email sent out on Oct. 29 at 7:54 pm to those who signed the petition calling for an investigation into the Sholom Rubashkin case, the White House says they cannot comment on the matter.
The petition currently has 52,226 signatures. It is the second most signed petition on the White House website’s We the People forum.
Here is what they wrote:
Why We Can’t Comment
Thank you for signing the petition “Call an Investigation into Allegations of Prosecutorial & Judicial Misconduct in the Case of Sholom Rubashkin.”
We appreciate your participation in the We the People platform on WhiteHouse.gov.
As explained in the We the People Terms of Participation, the White House may at times decline to comment on certain specific matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local governments in its response to a petition. For important policy reasons, this includes specific law enforcement and judicial ethics matters.
With respect to law enforcement matters, the Department of Justice is charged with investigating crime and enforcing our laws. The Department also has mechanisms in place to investigate allegations of prosecutorial misconduct, including through its Office of Professional Responsibility. With respect to judicial ethics matters, the Judicial Conduct and Disability Act of 1980 vests primary responsibility for investigating and adjudicating claims of judicial misconduct with the Judicial Branch.
This petition calls for an investigation into allegations of prosecutorial and judicial misconduct in the case of Sholom Rubashkin and for action to correct the “gross injustice” in his case. For the reasons given above, the White House declines to comment on matters raised by this petition.
I stopped reading after the third comment about NOW Obama lost votes. If you idiot liberals didn’t know better then to vote for him the first time…seriously!!!
Betachon vs Hishtadlus
The Rebbe taught us to combine both simultaneously!
Hashem requires us to make a proper vessel (al pi teva)
then
Hashem requires us to remember that all things government are (ultimately) controlled by Hashem
Thus we need to beseech the Real boss, (Hashem) while at the same time not forgetting a natural “keli”
“Lev melachim vesorim beyad Hashem”
“Hakol b’dey shomayom…”
“birchas Hashem bechol asher TAASEH”
“BeisDin sel maala, looks to yidden lmata for ques…”
http://www.justice.gov/pardon/obamapardon-grants.htm
a list of many (real) criminals Obama was ok intervening for
So many people read your supposed “informed” comments (that this supposedly a “judicial issue” that the president may not get involved in) and got dissuaded. You are factually and absolutely wrong! The petition was *not* asking for the president to get involved in the court case. The petition was asking for the president to order *an investigation* into the prosecutorial misconduct. Now, here are the facts: a) The prosecutors are under the Dept of Justice (DOJ) and answer to the Attorney General (AG). b) When prosecutors misbehave, the DOJ is supposed to take care of it. To that end, dozens… Read more »
IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
Plus, we should go out and riot like other racial groups would do in such a case!
we should break him out…
if this is publicized iy”h obama will lose the next election!
Why do they have to do this to us?It’s just so rude!
http://www.justice.gov/pardon/obamapardon-grants.htm
We hate you!!!!
This story needs to go to Breitbart and Drudge.
52,226 voters ignore you.
Then why do they have a category on there petitions website listed as “Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement”. If they can’t meddle in with it then they shouldn’t list it as a category.
soory rubashkins
Dear COLlive,
The ad that Obama is listening makes me want to vomit! Please take it down and put up a picture of dog or something more attentive.
Thank you.
So many of these comments make it sound like Obama rules the world, chas v’shalom. Let’s go “into the teiva” and turn to Hashem.
What nerve! How can Obama do this?
this is crazy
WHAT A BUNCH OF BS!
How do we start ths rally? I’m in!
All 52,000 of us, in front of the white house…if that doesn’t do anything, nothing will.
I love how their response was put in highly sophisticated terms but all it really said was: ‘We said wed listen to you, but really we don’t want to, were gonna subtly ignore you. We hope your happy though. K now go away. Bye’
Itotaally agree with #28 and #58. Lets get moving.
WE NEED TO FLOOD WHITEHOUSE WITH PHONE CALLS.FAXESAND EMAILS
COL PLEASE PROVIDE THIS INFO
http://tinyurl.com/6b4ykqr
http://tinyurl.com/6b4ykqr
Petitions the white house to take the petitions seriously.
Those who signed the petition are in essence asking the executive branch of government to perfom a duty that is constitutionally allocated to a completely different branch, namely the judicial branch. If you cannot understand my explanation or the response to the petition, complaint to your teachers, you should have learned this in fifth grade.
In the Chabad world, we have alot of people with great connections to the media. The media would love this negative attention on Obama. Get your act together and start getting the media involved. When that happens, Obama will have no choice but to comment. He doesn’t want any negative attention. If it hits the media, he will give this the attention it so deserves. Hatzlacha…
RIDICULOUS”!!!!!!!1
I knew all this effort will be a waste of time!
As if he had any Jewish votes. The reality is that this horrible story is happening with No one calling the judge into action. A petit ion of this kind is hard b/c some action were done that was inapropriate. You need a few judges in the court system to overlook the actions of this judge. You need the recorded sessions given over to authorities in the judicial system. The white house won’t do a thing. Go straiht to he surpreme court it might go faster.
Were you actually thinking of voting for Obama (aka Obamba, B. Hussein Obama, Obamanation…) for a second term anyway? If yes, you really need to get your head fixed…
Obama lied to ‘We the People’. The DOJ has ignored dozens of letters from MEMBERS OF CONGRESS asking for an investigation. So for the WH to then turn around and tell 52,000 of us that we should approach the DOJ with our concerns, is simply making a mockery out of us and out of the Whitehouse’s pledge to “look into” any issue that passes the threshold of votes. The ‘We the People’ petition is apparently not meant for real issues of concerns, like when someone is being railroaded by every branch of the federal government. No, it is for people… Read more »
Federal loans is a governmental, political issue. Something quite appropriate to petition the government about. Whereas it is extremely inappropriate to petition the Federal government to involve itself in a case making its way through the judiciary system at the same time that the judiciary is considering the very issues complained of! Asking the White House to meddle is EXTREMELY inappropriate. And that 50,000 people signed it makes it only worse, as it places scrutiny on the question whether the president will ignore the law to please a political bloc. Finally, this was a terrible strategy for his defense. It’s… Read more »
A bunch of stubborn ppl. Dnt be enbarrased just say no
Dnt give exudes!!!!!!
Please, please, please
will you guys please stop with these boy-who-cries-wolf with this “anti-semetism” screams!
All it does is makes the term “anti-semetism” worth less and less and less. If you abuse it you’ll loose any truth it has.
PS I think this whitehouse response is a disgusting way to respond to 52,226 human beings who you work for. he should either do something substantial to investigate these issues or take down this bogus political stunt of a website which can only upset people.
you think the president has time for every petition that get written up? helllooo, furthermore, ppl frustrated w the house like comment 44, are venting at the wrong person! i want to hear all the anger at clinton and bush for not getting polard out of jail…….
Disgusting!
No Comment>??!!!
BH
BSD
HOLY REB SHOLOM DIDNT HELP HIS CASE IN THE EARLY GOING…THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NO INPUT ON COURT CASES TO GIVE IT WAS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER USED
,,HIS KAPARA SHOULD END SOON
this is a bunch of bs. screw the white house.
are you and ppl writing the same comments the same ppl who scoff at racism when it involves someone else who isnt your own? you reap what you sow!
We need to do EVERYTHING we can al pi teva to get Sholom Mordechai out of jail… but it is important to remember that Hashem runs the world… not Obama… or Linda Reade… and even though fighting anti-semitism and correcting injustice is a task Hashem charges us with, it is not the intermediaries… particularly the intermediary of kelippah… that should be our focus. The focus is doing whatever is called upon by all of us to release this gezerah now.
SOON SOON! ALL OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WILL BE FREED FROM THE DARKNESS OF PRISONS AND TOGETHER WE WILL SEE THE LIGHT OF HASHEM IN ALL ITS GLORY WITH MOSHIACH NOW and all the WICKED JUDGES WILL SERVE TIME….BIG TIME!!! AND OUR ENEMIES WILL DISAPPEAR FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH…LAYEHUDIM HOYSA ORAH VSIMCHA,,,, KEIN TIHIYE LANU!! AMEIN!!
i cant belive this!!!! this is disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) Obama talks about Democracy the whole day but this clearly shows that he only does whats convenient for him 2) to all of those saying wait till 2012 what about 2011 Crown Heights Jewish residence and the frum community as a whole have a horrible voting record maybe a good thing would be to get used to voting in every election no matter how small it doesn’t matter if your a Democrat or Republican (like me) the main thing is to get involved politicians aren’t the greatest human beings out there they mostly do whats popular meaning the more… Read more »
get a Republican elected to the White House and concentrate on behind-the-scenes efforts towards getting Obama to give a pardon when he leaves office
we need to protest in front of the white house and show obama
that we mean business
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/actually-take-these-petitions-seriously-instead-just-using-them-excuse-pretend-you-are-listening/grQ9mNkN
Out of all 5 responses sofar given to petitions on the website, this is the only one not signed by a specific person (it is signed “The white house”).
Whatever the case is, it is in Hashem’s hands, not obamas or any other peoples.
Agreed, but we still can’t let him sit in jail for 27 years!
pleas say tehilim perek kuf tes for the federal gov, and justis dep
2012 is around the corner so do not forget to vote.
Have you even read the letter? The president is correct!!! It makes me so sad that the best we can do when faced with a real problem is just cry antisemitism. It makes me oh so very sad!
Oh please, this judge CLEARLY had an agenda before Obama made those comments.
If you think voting Obama out will help you are all kidding yourselves.
so all they say is they can’t get involved in what the judial system set up…..
Well What is the whole point of a petition? if all is running great and every department runs their show what need for petitions?
I am in for a rally I will take off work and pay for my bus ride to get down to Washington, actually i will drive there so I can bring 4 other people with me.
The White House avoided the issue by saying it can’t comment on the issues raised. A new petition should be brought simply asking that the sentence be reviewed as excessive, and then commuted.
you mean the crooks from chicago won’t even comment on it? who can we pay for his release?
Where are all the shluchim now that have the connections in the white house. We have to make sure that obama is voted out . You have to use your connections now. ENOUGH
yes – it was in the time of Bush’s reign that the raid came in… yes the unions ran the country then too HOWEVER – this injustice that we are screaming about began on Obama’s campaign trail – when without knowing the complete story – as soon as it broke his campaign cry was “PUNISH HIM BIG” Now – his stupid judge Linda Reade took that & ran – way too far! Everyone who is commenting or watching the comments here should reply by contacting the white house & letting them hear our opinions…. whether it helps or not if… Read more »
like the peaceful protest idea…
Obama, you lost my vote!!
By the way , they refused all petitions so far, rubashkin was not singled out. GO check out website. However people made a petition to listen to our petitions!!!! Lol
We should sign that one
Enough!
First all, people seem to forget when this whole thing started- with Bush. It was HIS people who put Rubashkin in this position. Even with calling the president an anti-semite. Do you seriously think he even has seen the petition and was the one to craft this response. Get real people! However, I am very disappointed that this is the response. Why, because the whole point of this is that the white house is saying to the people, we WANT to hear from you and deal with the issues YOU think are important. Yet, their response is simply, this isn’t… Read more »
We asked that you “direct your Attorney General… To initiate an investigation”
and you answer “The Department also has mechanisms in place to investigate allegations of prosecutorial misconduct”
Thanks a lot, now how about put those mechanisms to use and start an investigation!
Anti semitism in 2012? This case is a disgrace to the american judicial system -or lack there of! Shame on the whitehouse members responsible for this dispicable and pathetic response. Shame for the american people to be at the mercy of such a poorly monitored system that claims to stand for justice and fairness! Shame shame shame.
52000+ SIGNATURES AND THATS ALL THEY SAY
PURE GALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need to rally with signs, get the TV channels to come down and we have to get together to fight for the rights of our Jewish brother. Let us get thousands of people to come down and march for the rights for Rubaskin. Signing a petition goes no where. All we did is show how all the Jewish people came together and that was a kiddush hashem.
Get a life!
Get this gut outa the office! Why’s he running my country? (or not running…)
whats the next step …..hashem hashem please have mercy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
of course it didnt go to obamaa!! and even if it had do you seriouslt think that he would haave anaswered aany differently!? he just puts on a show, he hates jews!!
the president can pardon whoever he wants. It’s legal and constitutional.Forget appeals. Forget investigations. Create a petition for a presidential pardon. Mercy..time served.. long sentence… all good reasons. pardon now!
Did Obama even see it? Or does it not go to him at all?
DISGUSTING
we did not ask for a comment, we asked for an investigation! why beat around the bush?
president obama, you just lost tonz of votes!!!!!
no petition will give a pardon, we need to pay for it
we need an investigation. I guess this is an ambigious way of saying no.
Watch the documentary Food Inc. The agriculture business is the most corrupt in the states. And many in the FDA, judicial dept. And other gov’t agencies were installed by big interest firms. it is a real ‘shanda’
the petition has 52,000 signatures and the white house gives, no comment!!?
in the 21st century!!!!!!!!!!!!