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Making Fun of Chabad?

Pictures of the Purim Speil at the Satmar Beis Medrash in Williamsburg show a comedian dressed as a Lubavitcher and speaking from a podium covered with a yellow Moshiach flag. Photos

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yeah as if
October 2, 2011 3:45 pm

we dont make fun of them

gggggggggg
May 27, 2011 5:05 pm

chill out find out if it was violating shmiras haloshon

we make fun...so we deserve?
March 31, 2011 1:18 pm

are you crazy?
it is common for ppl to make fun of each other…
please – dont you get this is wayyyy different!!!
wake up!

and to those that think the meshichists put it on themselves…sorry – dont agree at all.

and 223 is also right
March 31, 2011 12:16 pm

all (im not going to mention the exceptions) rebbes are tzadikim, and to make fun of ANY rebbe is chutzpa and sad. didnt many none lubavichers, or even none jews come to the rebbe\rebbetzin?

194 is right
March 31, 2011 12:14 pm

194 is right, but still, 222 is right

Interesting..
March 30, 2011 5:13 pm

The crowd doesn’t seem to be thinking it’s hysterical.

DISGUSTED!!!!!!!!!
March 30, 2011 6:09 am

#222, you put into words exactly what I wanted to say.
Even if I would mock an individual person, which isn’t nice, I NEVER EVER would mock a Rebbe, no matter whether they are Satmar, Belz, Lelov, Ger, etc!!!

To all those chachomim:
March 29, 2011 12:42 pm

Do we dress on Purim with a shtreimel? yes!

Do we use the name “yollies”? yes

Do we copy their accent from time to time? yes

Do we say we are luckier to have the Tanya? yes

Did we ever make fun of an individuale person or rebbe? never!!!

mashiach
March 29, 2011 12:42 pm

Dont let it become the same story as kamtza and bar kamtza, we dont need Hashem to put us in a matsav were we obligated to respect one another, please ppl I know it might hursts you very much, but lets do what the rebber would have done if he was between us, no fights and behavta lerecha kamocha, Dont we want Mosiach?

Are we babies????
March 29, 2011 12:03 am

Why is anyone offended by a purim shpiel? Should we call Abe Foxman from the ADL? I think the overly offended reaction the stupid comment about being stuck in China etc is childish and embarrassing! If we allow mentally ill mishichisten to take over the Rebbe’s shul, don’t be surprised if Ger makes fun of us on Yom Kippur.

go......188
March 28, 2011 10:59 pm

got a point!!

abaut time
March 28, 2011 10:19 pm

At least some how a moshiach flag got on col

All you outraged angry people
March 28, 2011 9:58 pm

Have never made fun of a Satmar or other haredi? Yeah right. Please stop your hyperventilating and fake outrage, there are other things to get outraged over.

Think!
March 28, 2011 9:39 pm

How many people dressed up as chassidim this Purim?

dan l'kaf zechus....
March 28, 2011 8:18 pm

…is all I can say to something which seems so dispicable that a frum chossid/chassidim would do to their fellow Jews!

to 187
March 28, 2011 8:02 pm

can’t you see who they were making fun of?
how much can one spell it out?
it is beyond words what they did.
went way beyond the line of “ad kahn”
way beyond….

i will never have anything to do with satmar again, never.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 28, 2011 6:19 pm

these satmar people HAVE TO GET A LIFE!

chutzpa!!!
March 28, 2011 3:21 pm

they should be ashamed of themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they should go to the ohel and ask mechila from the rebbe!!!!!!
how dare they!!!!!!!!! mamash chutzpa!!!!!

Nice Flag
March 28, 2011 3:15 pm

It is Purim after all…!
🙂
It is interesting that Chabad is so fascinating for the Williamsburgers. We are different culturally for them. It is not like we do not put on a striemel now and then…

calm down
March 28, 2011 2:50 pm

in satmer its a normal think to make fun off their own rabbis
in purim first u have to know the satmer inside
u guys make a issue out off nothing

What's the old saying?
March 28, 2011 2:36 pm

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

Let me get this straight
March 28, 2011 2:32 pm

We’re allowed to use words like “Yoilies,” and make fun of the supposed narrowmindedness or ignorance of the Misnagdim (not the “Litvishers”). But …. What exactly was the comedian doing/saying? If he was supposed to be the Rebbe, certainly that set up (using the flag like that, etc.) is inappropriate. If the comedian was supposed to be someone else from Chabad, well, perhaps it would be important to know the specifics. We make fun of the Lubavitchers who are “over the top” too. We have to expect that others will, AND that they understand that the vast majority of us… Read more »

to 172
March 28, 2011 2:21 pm

Reb Aharon wouldn’t let this happen in his daled amois, he’s smarter than that, more of a talmid chochon and a more serious individual. His brother on the other hand….

188
March 28, 2011 2:18 pm

Are you blind? don’t you see the picture with the shtender and the mike? whom are they making fun of?

Sometimes I wonder where you get the know how which buttons to push to open the computer.

lubavitcher
March 28, 2011 2:14 pm

Disgusting and outrages!!, what are you teaching their kids?!
frum??!! horrible !!

You LOST IT
March 28, 2011 1:30 pm

They arent making fun of the Rebbe, they arent making fun of Chabad, they are making fun of all of YOU. Everyone who is going ballistic on this topic. They are mocking YOU! Dont drag the rest of us down into this muck because you realize that they are RIGHT. YOU are all easily mockable by the entire nation of Israel. I had a newly connect Jewish man tell me at a wedding last night that he loves Chabad Chassidus and the way of life but he just cant get passed this part. You turn away frum Jews from learning… Read more »

why??
March 28, 2011 12:04 pm

you werent there you dont even know what he said how can u be so insulted by his mocking? how do u know he was mamesh mocking?? and you would only feel insulted if you think chabad is something to be insulted from. where is your breitkeit?!

Satmar: SHAME ON YOU
March 28, 2011 11:36 am

what a low disgusting act and in front of a ‘rebbe’ no less, and as an entertainment for purim!? disgusting.

observer
March 28, 2011 10:07 am

I love the old man napping next to the Rebs. BTW How do you guys know at what the Rebs is smiling? There were other shikurim entertaining also. They may have been making fun of him…. think about it.

to 188 -
March 28, 2011 8:22 am

AGREED. HOW TO IMPLEMENT IN REALITY?
THIS IS REAL.

maybe miscommunication?
March 28, 2011 8:21 am

has anyone asked them what their intentions were? maybe we are misjudging them. i would like to know where i can contact the satmars that were in charge of all of this.

Right or wrong makes no diff
March 28, 2011 8:12 am

At this point whether we make or dont make fun of satmar… the satmar rav as a rabbi should not be there taking joy of it. on the other hand, we don;t know what the guy is saying he could be saying good … lets try think positive

ew satmar
March 28, 2011 6:24 am

ew. what disgusting people. This would never fly in our 770. What we may do in the privacy of our homes is one things – but OUR Rebbe would never allow this is public. Shame on them.

what
March 28, 2011 4:50 am

to 29:i know it is a disgrase copying ther rebbe. and to 91:we dont nead to see a vidio

DEAR SATMAR
March 28, 2011 4:36 am

one thing i could prommise you, that such a bihavier, is definatly not a result of being a YIREI SHOMAIM, A BEN TOIROH, OR A MEHADER BEMITZVOIS.

the question is not what you will tell lubavitch or the whole chasidishe and yidishe world, the question is: what are you telling to your own self`s – betwen you and the oibershter… GENUG IZ GENUG, MIT LITSONES ALEIN KEN MEN NIT YOITZE ZAIN… ES IZ GEKUMEN DI TZAIT TZU VEREN VI FRUME ERLICHE UN CHASIDISHE IDEN DARFEN ZAIN.

You guys....
March 28, 2011 4:22 am

I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE GUYS PROBLEMS ARE. CHILL OUT THEY MAKE FUN OF THEIR OWN REBBE IN THIS VIDEO.
CHECK IT OUT:
http://youtu.be/qeb_Jb5MqrY

NO COMPARISONS PLEASE
March 28, 2011 3:16 am

To all those who try to compare putting on a sthreimel and payos (which, by the way, sells in every corner store before Purim) to this mockery….YOU CAN’T!
This is disgraceful and I am only hopeful that a large percentage of the crowd is very uncomfortable with this and are just too scared of their so called rebbe to protest.

to # 94
March 28, 2011 3:01 am

i saw the video…now that is out of hand, they cant go that far….

Elchonon
March 28, 2011 2:26 am

BTW while I do not support this, I recall lubavitch bochurim using a chasidic rebbe as a color war breakout this past summer…

#4 U go buddy!
March 28, 2011 1:50 am

It is not so funny when it is others making fun of you. I heard plenty of disgusting talk from the tables of those complaining today. That is why the Rebbe stood for respect for every Jew.

We need to remove hate
March 28, 2011 1:34 am

And then maybe if we unite, the hate of the goyim will diminish.
But first it must come from us, lubavitcher amongst lubavitchers, and yidden among yidden.
Let’s try to remember that we’re all one family, we should not be fighting or degrading. We have to first

Ban! Now!
March 28, 2011 12:01 am

How can such a person be called a Rebbe?

We need to ban ALL Satmar products from our homes, Chabad Houses & institutions. Unless there’s another hechscher I refuse to buy CRC or any Satmar products as of now. Hit them in the only thing they care about…money.

meshichistim
March 27, 2011 11:37 pm

they’re making fun of meshichistim not lubavichers why is everyone taking this personally

hirschel pekkar.
March 27, 2011 10:58 pm

BH. The Jewish People are known by their qualities of being –
Rachmonim, Baishonim, and – Gomlei chassodim, and this is more noticeable on Purim, when it is a case of “nichness yayin yotzei sod. – when wine comes in, secrets (the innermost characteristics of a Jew) come out. See what the targum says, on the words – “ben sorer imoreh” – a rebellious son, in Parshes “ki seitzei.

we all make fun of each other but
March 27, 2011 10:50 pm

never as a show , nor of a rebbe

feee
March 27, 2011 10:43 pm

then they ask for tzedaka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sonei yisrorl
March 27, 2011 10:39 pm

they r the biggest joke….sonei yisrorl…
let them all verify if in fact they are jewish
as it has come to light in recent years
that many are ”outright goyim”
this has been checked verifiyed .and is known in their community .
anyone who can even participate in a despicable occasion as such
his lineiage is questionable ….

What??????????
March 27, 2011 10:06 pm

what are they thinking???????

Chutzpa
March 27, 2011 10:02 pm

SEAEN KMIHU….

satmer
March 27, 2011 9:49 pm

loos zai ale gaien platzen

not offended
March 27, 2011 9:44 pm

i am not offended at all they can do whatever they want the only problem i have is their rebbe is laughing at it a rebbe should never let that happen

dont take it personal
March 27, 2011 9:37 pm

they didn’t even know what they doing dont take it personal
satmer likes chabed guys for sure thay are anti zionoist like the old chabed

???
March 27, 2011 9:20 pm

as if…. i know plenty of lubavitchers who would also dress up a yoeli’s for purim….

azoi iz der emes!!
March 27, 2011 9:08 pm

niknas yain ioitze soid!!!

H"VSh - to #62
March 27, 2011 8:29 pm

Has VeShalom we are making fun of any yid! Are you chabadnik?

Good
March 27, 2011 8:25 pm

Actually it’s good that these Yidish speaking Eida troubled with the ideas Geula and Moshiach, it means we are close.

to 72
March 27, 2011 8:18 pm

thank you for the video. it shows it is not only him- look how all of them participate along, imitating chassidim. who do they think they are?!?!

is this rabbi aaron or rabbi zalman ?
March 27, 2011 7:58 pm

is this rabbi aaron or rabbi zalman ?

disgusting
March 27, 2011 7:53 pm

they arent just making fun of tsfatim but they were making fun of the rebbe himself

Its not even a joke!
March 27, 2011 7:49 pm

They are acting so childish. Its so not funny! Making fun of a tadik do we ever make fun of there rebbes!?!?!

not worth it
March 27, 2011 7:37 pm

to ask for an apology
dont waste your breath
this is the way they are period

we need to react though
no business with them
none of their products
esp schechita
as well as cholov yisroel!!!
get J and J off our shelves!

ze achosid veze harabi
March 27, 2011 7:15 pm

ze achosid veze harabi

yechy
March 27, 2011 7:11 pm

im not saying that there right but also make fun of satmarso so it goes both ways and we are also not right

WHAT IS OK AND WHAT IS NOT
March 27, 2011 6:58 pm

It’s totally fair to make fun of meshuchistim, anti’s etc… That is fine and since it’s childish and purim, it’s cook.

We all make fun of what goes on in 770 etc, so lets not be that shocked at the flag.

BUT making fun of the Rebbe, Chas ve Shalom, is totally off limits, and bad for the perpetrators health.

its a AMOLAKE CHOZPA!
March 27, 2011 6:11 pm
nebach
March 27, 2011 6:11 pm

what a sick thing to do

uch un vay
March 27, 2011 6:07 pm

any of you see this and can still sa”y chill out,it’s a joke” ,i feel sorry for you.i’m sure you don’t take your own kovod as lightly as you’re taking the rebbe’s here.

Whtas all the fuss here??
March 27, 2011 5:54 pm

I don’t hear what’s being said but the pictures are just Purim pics guys! Don’t we Chabad wear a Shtreimel on Purim??? Come on, stop playing the victims and be proud to be Chabad!!

tell Rabbi Heller...
March 27, 2011 5:37 pm

They are diffrent Satmer then back then…

listen to this
March 27, 2011 5:06 pm

livchor rav purim asher mashmia bekolo divrei leitzanus al harabonim umorim bedivrei bekuros bivdichos daas. veleitzonus ein bo shum heter badovor.vehamebadeach al cheshbon chachmei yisroel,godol avoinoiminosoi vehu ,etc.etc.etc.

that's the funniest thing ever!!
March 27, 2011 4:59 pm

they are just ‘wanna be us’
oh by the way I like #7!!

Finally! Satmar is also talking about Moshiach!
March 27, 2011 4:28 pm

With even the flag.

He is just jealous that HIS chassidim dont think he is moshiach!

anser to number 10#
March 27, 2011 4:09 pm

hes not a rebbe hes a satmir with a grey kapota with a shtreiml

a lubavitch girl.
March 27, 2011 4:09 pm

this is not nice from them!!
its totally chillul hashem!!! what wold the goym think abt that?! they are totally jealous that we have a a REAL Rebbe!! and they want just to be like us!

I feel so bad for the yaili´s-
March 27, 2011 4:03 pm

-that they have such a ´rebe´ who could´nt care less. rachmunes on them. Hashem should help them and they should find better ways to fill up their emptyness…

finaly
March 27, 2011 3:40 pm

now u c wat meshichisam does its mevazeh the rebbes name like crazy it is disscusting and sad but not surprising especially coming from satmar

to 94
March 27, 2011 3:39 pm

actually, i can understand why they did this. i must admit, while im not “on their side” they did a pretty good job. surprisingly, they all know the niggunim, and they had no problem singing it. moshiach’s tzieten. their jelouse.

on ther part
March 27, 2011 3:39 pm

THE WORST OF ALL, THERE REBBE ALLOWS IT TO BE DONE. THE PROBLEM IS FROM THE SOURCE (going back like the old day)

to 27
March 27, 2011 3:36 pm

27 good point !

Just a Yid
March 27, 2011 3:29 pm

SHLACH REFUAH SHELEIMO LECHOILEY AMECHO!!!!

SIM SHOLOM
March 27, 2011 3:27 pm

AL TODIN ES CHAVERCHA AD SHETAGIAH LIMKOMO!
Where is Ahavas Yisroel?
Did the person who posted this article hear the whole skit?
Perhaps it isn’t as written?
Just because their Rebbe is smiling does it mean it was at that exact skit?
Perhaps they really want to be Lubavitcher Chassidim?
very few of the above listed 105 comments are correct according to Chasidei Chabbad.
Did you ask the Rebbe if you should write it?

azf
March 27, 2011 3:26 pm

im very insulted i will lose sleep tonite

blame only themselves
March 27, 2011 3:21 pm

WHEN TRAGEDY WILL BEFALL THOSE INVOLVED THEY WILL EXACTLY KNOW WHO TO POINT THE FINGER TO THEY ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE THEY NEVER LEARN AND ARE DOING IT ALL THERE LIFE WHEN THE NAZIS LAUGHED WHEN THEY WERE CUTTING BEARD AND PAYOS OFF A PRECIOUS JEW AND THEY LAUGH ON JEWS THEIR CHILDREN ENDED UP CUTTING BEARD AND PAYOS OF JEWS RIGHT HERE IN BROOKLYN BEWARE!!! Back in the days when Satmar was at it’s worst and had made fun of the Rebbe publicly on the streets of Satmar, on Purim, the story is known that THE ONE who was… Read more »

Thanks #94
March 27, 2011 3:10 pm

The video you posted support what I said: this is SINAS CHINAM, and there is NO difference made between Meshichisten and anti’s, this is mockery of the WHOLE Chabad, but worse of all, a mockery of the Rebbe. HOW DARE THEY? As I said, you cannot justify it with the “spirit of Purim”, because they mock us throughout the whole year. So in mocking CHABAD, and not a part of Chabad, they mean it!

In seeing the video, I cannot discribe what were my feelings. To say the least, I’m DISGUSTED! How could such people can be called “Chassidim”?

Double-faced..!
March 27, 2011 3:07 pm

Here’s when Lubavitch went to be Menachem avel HIM (another Lubavitch group went to do the same by his brother), and now he can’t respect it?

http://www.col.org.il/show_news.rtx?artID=55901

Keep shut! don't blame them we need achdus!
March 27, 2011 3:05 pm

You can’t blame and you shouldn’t! what we have to do is make achdus no matter what they do! unfortunately that is not fully happening. After all those crazy sad things happening in the world lubavitch can’t keep shut and just make achdus why always machlokes and making fun! with Achdus we will a”h have Moshiach Now!

Not double standard
March 27, 2011 3:01 pm

There one way to know that it’s not double standard: When Lubavitcher “mock” Satmar on Purim, anybody can realize that we don’t do it with malice, a spirit of mockery or to make fun of them, but in the spirit of Purim. On the other, a certain group among Satmar (I’m talking about Rebbe Zalman’s chassidim) mock, speak L’H and make fun of Chabad THROUGHTOUT the whole year. So, you can be sure that in mocking Chabad and THE REBBE on Purim, they did mean it, as when they mock us all the year. Concerning the argument that it was… Read more »

A REBBE????
March 27, 2011 2:58 pm

it is a disgrace to the title Rebbe, for the satmar to call himself that. if he can sit quietly and allow any shmeker to get up and make fun of the Rebbe. AND THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE DOING!

the problem is zalmen laib
March 27, 2011 2:47 pm

rev aaron is a good rebbe the only problem in satmar is his brother zalmen laib!!!

relax
March 27, 2011 2:29 pm

i think this is all hatred on our side.
yes, it is wrong and a disgrace on thier part. but we have to remember, it might not have been hatred on their part, it was probably just purim and didnt have much thought into it.

to # 27
March 27, 2011 2:29 pm

you r wrong ok they can dress like us, its purim but 2 chuzhpadik 2 the nosy hador is past the limit !

White Socks
March 27, 2011 2:05 pm

The Satmar are as sophisitcated as their socks. It begins with the socks and ends with the socks.

In between is contempt for everyone who does wear the socks.

Their idea of Yom Tov is to make fun of other Yidden, while the Rebbe smiles and looks on in enjoyment.

Tell me, please that their Yiddishkeit is not in the socks…

Some of you miss the point
March 27, 2011 2:03 pm

This was the Rebbe they were making fun of.
Our personal disparaging coments about others never refer to their Rebbeim, and certainly never in an official sanctioned forum as this was.
Nothing has changed since all those years ago when they attacked Lubavitchers on Tahalucha in Williamsburgh, hung a figure-meant to represent the Rebbe- in effigy, etc

are you sure
March 27, 2011 1:55 pm

are you sure the satmar are dressed up as a lubavavitcher or the lubavith at the back dressed up as satmars >

Making fun of Meshichists
March 27, 2011 1:38 pm

I find it laughable that making fun of moronic dolts dressed as Lubavitchers is any way mocking the Rebbe. The moment you lift your hand against a Jew you are no longer a Lubavitcher. Would I harm a meshichist, CV”S!!! Imagine if I came into 770 and tore down the sign. My life could be ended in that very moment! But you would do that in front of the Rebbe right? Way to ignore the facts. A bunch of crack pot Chassidim, developing their own chidushim have made the Rebbe! the Nosi HaDor! the Moshiach A Joke. You all make… Read more »

a shlucha
March 27, 2011 1:33 pm

these ppl are just jealous of chabad!
this is not the way a “rebbe” should act with other kehillah..!
its a shame from them…

disgusting!!
March 27, 2011 1:27 pm

idiots!

SOOO IMMATURE!!!!
March 27, 2011 1:22 pm
To #94
March 27, 2011 12:57 pm

The video clip if someone imitating the Rebbe is at a PRIVATE party..but this one was at the official Purim gathering of the Satmar Zalmonim (Drimmers friends)

Yitamu Chatoim Veloy Chotim
March 27, 2011 12:45 pm

Back in the days when Satmar was at it’s worst and had made fun of the Rebbe publicly on the streets of Satmar, on Purim, the story is known that THE ONE who was the one most responsible for doing it had a terrible accident afterwords and had passed away in a Misa Meshuna not long afterwords.

May Hashem have Rachmonus on his Neshomo and he should do Teshuva Immediately to be saved – Yitmau Chatoim Veloy Chotim

to all those who think
March 27, 2011 12:44 pm

we are over reacting
who think this is funny

it is your Rebbe!
Have some self respect.
a jab is one thing
but a public spectacle in front of their Rebbe?
it is an outrage of the highest proportions.

This pains me to see
March 27, 2011 12:42 pm

other yidden offending other yidden.

to #91
March 27, 2011 12:26 pm

that was really funny.

I really liked the joke

observer
March 27, 2011 12:09 pm

Lighten up, fellows – you ALL are a laughing stock!

Maybe its time for cheshbon hanefesh?
March 27, 2011 12:02 pm

I know that this is an unpopular opinion around here, however perhaps with a bit of introspection we might realize that we are making a laughingstock out of ourselves. ‘Nuff said…

what's the difference now anyways?
March 27, 2011 11:46 am

what’s the difference? on purim satmar degraded chabad, okay that’s not nice, but now chabad is degrading satmar
please keep your disgusted thoughts to yourself

awacs
March 27, 2011 11:38 am

“we all know the story of the satmarer who brought r’l a dead dod to the frierdiker rebbes oihel… ”

No, we *don’t*, #81. Please elaborate!

mendelbaum
March 27, 2011 11:37 am

doesnt this happen in 770 every day! now you guys see how nuts this is, when someone else acts…..clean up your own mess, agree that these flag/tzatsniks are insane and a chilul hashem.

is there a video clip?
March 27, 2011 11:14 am

i’d love to see it

Satmarer Shliach
March 27, 2011 11:10 am

1. in the time of the old Satmar Rebbe, zya, they used to imitate him right in front of him on Purim – because he was not crazy like you guys who get offended by Purim shtik

2. This same Purim Rov (from the Zali side) made fun of Reb Aaron too

3. This is not offensive – imitation is the sincerest form of admiration (or something like that – i am still drunk from Purim)

A Known Story - What hapened to the one who made fun of the Rebbe LAST TIME?
March 27, 2011 11:08 am

Back in the days when Satmar was at it’s worse and had made fun of the Rebbe publicly on the streets of Satmar on Purim, the story is known that THE ONE who was the one most responsible for doing it had a terrible accident afterwords and had passed away in a Misa Meshuna not long after.

May Hashem have Rachmonus on his Neshomo and he should do Teshuva Immediately to be saved – Yitmau Chatoim Veloy Chotim

ISSUR against using the Satmar HISACHDUS Hechsherim in FULL FORCE now!
March 27, 2011 11:02 am

The Issur against using any Satmar products under the Hechsher of Hisachdus was never removed to this day and remains in full force.

If anyone thought that perhaps it was time remove the issur, this shows that they are all the same. It’s the S.S.D.D.

moshiachnow!!!!!
March 27, 2011 10:44 am

Their shul is HUGE! They maybe pking fun but u can’t change some1 else (u cn try helping them etc) but the real person u hv control over is urself so take a lesson from this n increase in A Y etc n e/t is hashgacha pratis like the Besht says e/t u hear n c tk as a lesson 4 Avoda

no question about it.
March 27, 2011 10:13 am

let me tell you. If this had happened in front of our Rebbe, ( which it never would, could you imagine the Rebbe being amused publicly or privately by making fun of other frum Yidden)

someone getting up and making fun of the Satmar Rebbe they would KILL us . ashreinu we are different from them.

yodayim yedei aisov – know who they are — for all those who claim – times have changed and they have changed.
NOTHING has changed — we need Moshiach now – The rebbe was right on, again. loi mehaim veloi mimoimoinom

Life doesn't always have to be serious!
March 27, 2011 9:53 am

There is nothing wrong with what they did. Satmar’s don’t hate Lubavitchers, they were doing V’nahopuch Huh! You people have to learn how to take a joke! Purim is about being B’simcha and having fun. Lubavitch is different then all Chassidim and we should be proud of that, and if then Satmar’s find something to have fun with, then good for them. Lubavitchers make fun of Chassidim as well! Grow Up and laugh with them!

to number 9 etc.
March 27, 2011 9:34 am

f you are complaining that they are teaching their kids bad stuff, why are you calling them not nice names on a website that kids read?

achdus
March 27, 2011 9:15 am

The Tzemach Tzedek said that the unity of chasidim will bring Moshiach. There are enough divisions within the respective communities of Satmar and Lubavitch. Maybe if we focus on achdus within our own communities, we’ll be more respected by other groups of chasidim.

Backwards ideologies
March 27, 2011 9:09 am

They have no other way to entertain themselves on Purim, but to put down chabad? And then they use our chabad houses when they get stuck somewhere…. We are all chassidim, they should teach their kids to respect not to poke fun.

I Know Them
March 27, 2011 9:06 am

Just another wakeup call for all Lubavichers.
we must be united (right and left).
thank G”d we are holding with the “Emes”,
lets be proud of our Rebbe the greatest Rebbe
the real Rosh beni Yisroel,we have the reacheset Chasidus
and ” Lehavdil” this is what they have to sell.
with their leader approving this lowlife activity
they are definatly broke,have nothing to sell
in this holly day of Purim
Stay away from them and their Hecsher and their Money
they were solld to the Sitra Achrah.
Scarry!!!!!!!!!!!!

look in the mirror
March 27, 2011 8:50 am

I have been lubavitch for over 10 years. It amazes me that Lubavitchers think they are the only faction of yiddishkeit that makes sense. That everyone should convert to Lubavitch. Lubavitchers constantly poke fun of snags and often dress as yoilies on Purim. Its always funny to watch but CV someone should poke some fun at us. Get yourselves all worked up, how can they do that ? they are sick, disgusting, no respect./ Look in the mirror people, you were laughing at the Lubavitcher dressed as a yoilie last sunday. its a 2 way street. Maybe if we respected… Read more »

BIG DEAL!!!
March 27, 2011 8:42 am

I guess all those that are commenting dont remember the days when Shiya Pinson or former Gaboyim of 770 would put on a Shtreimel and sell the Kivudim for the year…the Rebbe sat and watched and laughed!!! I’m sure if we use the same logic the Satmars or other Chassidim for that matter would have been livid against LUBAVITCH!!!

I'm a belzer,
March 27, 2011 8:28 am

and i can tell you, that the belzer rebbe would stop it immediately!
leave go how many Lubavitcher chassidim were offended,
aren’t they scared “klappei shamyim”????

anser to number 10#
March 27, 2011 7:59 am

hes not a rebbe

its actually funny
March 27, 2011 6:55 am

come on guys, some humor!
besides, you make plenty fun of them too.
anyone for a tuna baygil?

2 different things!!!!!!
March 27, 2011 5:29 am

satmar can never be like lubavitch + its a sick joke!!!!

chabad
March 27, 2011 4:14 am

well what I always say ,Moshiach is for Lubavitch only!
hahahaha!
they are missing out!
They really want to believe in Mshiach but are terrified they will be called Chabad.We have all the answers!

many will call me fanatic..
March 27, 2011 4:08 am

…. let me just remind you…with the recent events in Israel etc, we as a Jewish people, are now getting a rude awakening that ‘Am levadad Yishkon’, we are a nation that stand alone. Those who are real friends to Jews are the exceptions, the minority, not the majority. Disagree with me if you like, but in the Jewish community, I feel that since the birth of Chabad Chassidism, we have always been the ‘Jews of the Jews’ if you wish, those never well accepted or well liked by the major other groups…. yes, for PR and when they need… Read more »

chosid
March 27, 2011 4:04 am

if this happened with the real Satmer Rebbe Aharon Shlita i would be upset.

calm down its only R’ Zalman

videos?!
March 27, 2011 4:03 am

any videos?!?!?!

Those are normal frum guys
March 27, 2011 3:58 am

which i can’t say for everyone in our midst…

A GRISE RACHMONES
March 27, 2011 3:24 am

who ever had rachmono litzlan a part in this, as a good friend, i sugest to you, to go imediatly to the oihel and ask mechile by the rebbe, un der oibershter zol helfen az es zol aich chas vesholom keinem nit shaten.

i am sure that yuo did not mean chas vesholom to make fun in any way of the rebbe, you just ment to bring out how mishuge the meshichisten are. but still this is terrible, please understand it….

But we don't even know if they are making fun
March 27, 2011 2:35 am

How do you know they were saying not nice things? You probably made it up because you saw the picture, And anyway, they are supposed to make fun of everyone-even their own teachers and rebbes, so they included us, big deal.

don't worry, be happy
March 27, 2011 2:29 am

This is their first step to becoming REAL chassidim .
Uzz menn macht noch vellen zey efsher veren sof kol sof.
And besides, it would take a lot more than a bunch Satmarer to offend me on Purim.

thanks to #72 for the clip it just shows you who we are talking about,
March 27, 2011 2:23 am

what a fool he is, it reminds me the story of reb volf zshitomirer the talmid of the ball shem tov, when he winded up in a place with a whole group of “talmidei chachamim” look alikes, and in reality they were nothing else but the -sitre achre- v’chulhu….

dont make fun
March 27, 2011 2:21 am

i agree that they should not have copied the rebbe /lubavitchers but the moshiachis people have spoilt it for everyone arfter moving to eretzisrael 9months ago i see it has split people up whether you goto n ot the moshiachas school or not they have seperate schools here it definetly makes people make fun of them is this what the rebbi would have wanted his own chassidim fighting between each other nowonder other people make fun

Making fun of the Rebbe!!!
March 27, 2011 1:58 am

This is not just tzfatim, but making fun of the Rebbe http://youtu.be/PnVeaAHcJE0

This isn't any making fun of chabad - he is mockingly imitating the REBBE
March 27, 2011 1:49 am

How can we not be disgusted?! This is not any Purim shpiel – this is real hatred against the Rebbe!! Of course we should be absolutely disgusted by it mockingly making light of a farbengen in 770. The only comfort is the Rebbe knows how to defend his kavod.

To 72
March 27, 2011 1:49 am

Doesn’t that make it worse if he’s copying The Rebbe? Certainly we should be offended.

Here's what lakewood has
March 27, 2011 1:27 am
to the first 20 comments
March 27, 2011 1:16 am

Why do you all seem to be so hurt they are not making fun of chabad they are making fun of the crazy’s (mishechisten)

Now i have a problem
March 27, 2011 12:56 am

Some of us work with/for/in Satmar. Now what? What should we do or say? we’re they poking fun at the lunatic Tsfatim or at Chabd in general? Was anyone there who heard it and who will speak up? No one said anything to me this week but I have to face these people next week. What should I do? I can’t afford to quit a good job. I’m so sick from this I can’t believe the satmar rebbe sat & laughed and didn’t get up and leave, How could he let this go on? Mr. Satmar #75 can you find… Read more »

discusting
March 27, 2011 12:50 am

all their choshuve rabanim sititngs around watching a yid make fun of another yid?!?!?!?!?! woah. im open mouthed

WHAT???
March 27, 2011 12:47 am

Is he imitating the Rebbe???????

Meshichist make a bigger mockery than Satmar
March 27, 2011 12:46 am

Rashi Sicha Parsha Shemini. The Rebbe quotes a gemara in brachos chaf zayin amud bais.

When you say something in the name of the Rebbe that he didnt say, or say to do you are deserving of the same punishment of nadav and avihu.

Meshicists make more of a mockery of the Nasi HaDor than any Satmar could.

You are all the reason why then entire world didnt recognize the Rebbe was Moshiach before Gimmel Tammuz.

Making Fun of Rebbe and who's watching??
March 27, 2011 12:44 am

If this guy is doing this same shpiel that #72 posted from youtube, he’s imitating the Rebbe and not a Lubavitcher chosid, and its a disgrace that a leader of ANY community, let alone a “Rebbe” should listen to without making a machoh. Regarding such “Rebbes” we can say, “Elef Lamateh” – ober a shteken bleibt a shteken…

The Chabad Rabanim need to Demand an apology.
March 27, 2011 12:42 am

This is crossing a red line.

It's not THEM, it's US!
March 27, 2011 12:34 am

You’ve got to admit it, there are people within our community that are doing crazy things in the name of Lubavitch. But that’s only the first part of the problem. The real problem is that we accept it, and we don’t do anything about it.
Walking into 770 these just isn’t what it used to be… If we allow these people to be associated with us, we’re telling the world this is also Chabad/Lubavitch. Can you really expect them not to make fun of us??

difference
March 27, 2011 12:33 am

i am not surprised, still remember beeing in the mitzva tank they threw rocks on, they are different kind of Jews, it is all about them, try doing business with them, they teach thier boys to be supper aggresive in business from age 15, they will stop at nothing, has any of you ever seen thier booths at trade shows and wht kind of models they use?, they will never change, so who cares, they never were, and never will be our friends, belive me, it is more pleasant to do business with goy than with a yoely

okkkk
March 27, 2011 12:30 am

after is 72 video, this guy should take go to the oihel and ask mechila from the rebbe. to make one of mishichistim on purim np, we make fun of mishichishitm every day and of snags and yoelis so we are as guilty but messing with our rebbe is a shrekliche zach. we all know the story of the satmarer who brought r’l a dead dod to the frierdiker rebbes oihel…

Oh PLEASE......
March 27, 2011 12:25 am

EVERYONE RELAX!! You getting waaay too offended. As IF we never make jokes about “Yoilies” or “snags” etc… why can we poke at others and they can’t poke at us?? Don’t be so self righteous.

DONT LET YOUR SEALF BE FOOLD!! THERE JOKING ON OUR REEBE
March 27, 2011 12:18 am
Reb Yoel
March 27, 2011 12:17 am

There is a bavuste story of a badchan in satmar who made fun of thesatmar rebbe reb yoel in front of his face at a chasunah and it was acceptable… Therefore I believe we should all calm down… It’s an accepted practice amongst them..

THIER HASGACHA
March 27, 2011 12:14 am

….AND WE STILL EAT THIER HECHSHER AND GO TO THIER PARTIES …THE KINUSS HASHLUCHIM WAS IN THIER HALLS …THEY ARE THE WORST OF THE WORST …TIMCHEA ES ZAICHER STAMAR…AND IN THE WORDS OF THE REBBE ….LO MEHEM V’LO MEHEMONUM! (NOT FROM THEM AND NOT FROM THIER $$$$$$$$)

tragedy
March 27, 2011 12:13 am

this is an absolute tragedy. i am nearing to tears. i feel like they are personally making fun of my tatte, the rebbe. the satmer rebbe himself was laughing together with his evil followers. yes chabad calls them “yoilis” and funny nicknames but to make this an official assembly and make fun of a leader is wrong! naturally a person at least shouldn’t be making fun of even a simple yid how much more so a rebbe! chabad has a natural sensitivity towards a fellow. yes there may be a dispute in lubavich meshechist or anti yet it doesnt matter!… Read more »

People, pls
March 27, 2011 12:12 am

This was done in Williamsburg and in front of Reb Zalman of Satmar

Do not cofuse them with my Rebbe – Reb Aaron of Satmar from Monroe who is a regular at Chabad, visits the Shlichim and does not make it a minhag to make fun of others.

A git voch,
A real Satmar chussid from Monroe

72...
March 27, 2011 12:11 am

at least they knew the niggun!
goes to show who is really stronger

Hanging The Rebbe in effigy
March 27, 2011 12:08 am

Back in the day they used to hang The Rebbe up on a telephone pole on Lee Ave. ,Purim Day.This has NOTHING to do with The Tzvatim or Yechi.

You should all know...
March 27, 2011 12:07 am

To be fair, this guy impersonates all kind of Rebbe’s, including the other Satmar Rebbe.

Although it is a Bizoyon, it is not specifically geared to Lubavitch. It is should obviously offensive to all kinds of Chassidim and to all kinds of Rebbe’s.

I do understand why, though, it would be and should be offensive to all of us. This is not “a Lubavitcher” that he’s copying, but the Rebbe.

There is a clip of him doing this I recently saw:
http://youtu.be/PnVeaAHcJE0

SHAME ON US! STAND UP!!!!
March 27, 2011 12:05 am

its time we realize that these people are joking at chabad at us, not at those how call them selfs “mishichist”. wake up smell the coffee.

crazy
March 27, 2011 12:02 am

i like comment # 7 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nauseating
March 26, 2011 11:54 pm

this is why the Aaronis cant stand the zalonis! di ferd ligt oif zalmens ponim!

What's the big deal??
March 26, 2011 11:52 pm

We dress up as a satmar and they dress up as a lubavitcher…with yellow flags. So what? But Ye…I do believe they are poking some fun…and why not? Thanks to the fanatic mishichistim we as a whole is looked upon like Nut cases

they are
March 26, 2011 11:52 pm

they are making fun of meshichistim, who cares!!??

MAKING FUN OF LUBAVICHER REBBE
March 26, 2011 11:52 pm

Notice the man standing by the shtender is trying to imitate our dear REBBE, we must stand up for his honor.

Chill out
March 26, 2011 11:45 pm

It was just a Purim comedy skit – “ve’nah’pouch hu”. I was there. It was simply highlighting the farce some sects of Chabad make of themselves and their Rebbe zt”l. Chill out and take it in good spirits! L’chaim!

this or the zalys
March 26, 2011 11:44 pm

the real satmar rabbi that has a close realitonship with chabad dosn’t let adoults on his tish becouse he dosn’t want that they should harm other people he would never let souch a think this is by his unger brother zalmen lieb that likes to make chozek of every one

On Purim
March 26, 2011 11:41 pm

They got to watch a comedy skit on Purim, while we have to suffer with it every day of they year.

Why
March 26, 2011 11:35 pm

Why do you show pictures of Satmarars making fun of us? Do they sho pictures of us on their websites when we make fun of them?

Tee hee
March 26, 2011 11:30 pm

All in good fun. I wonder what he said.

SATMARS
March 26, 2011 11:21 pm

They Still need to apologize to Lubavitch for Throwing Rocks @ then on the way Going on Tahalucha!

happy
March 26, 2011 11:16 pm

shame on the so called satmer rabbi .and the rest i leave up to my dear rebbe to take care of.

wow
March 26, 2011 11:08 pm

This is terrible! I work the Satmar community…. I am disgusted!!!!

This is not appropriate for any lubavitcher to publicize.
March 26, 2011 11:08 pm
Good
March 26, 2011 11:03 pm

Good. At least now they know there is Moshiach. They don’t have
such a concept, but maybe this will help.

very bad taste
March 26, 2011 11:02 pm

this is not nice at all
even their rebbele is sitting and watching and didnt stop this is simply in bad taste

anonymous
March 26, 2011 11:00 pm

They’re all jealous!.. Sick!

resident
March 26, 2011 10:57 pm

Next time a satmar is stuck in china or philipines for business let them remember who it is that always comes to their aide for shabbos and kosher food. Its a shliach . Flag or no flag they always help them out. How sad to take a holy thing like a tish and make fun of something so dumb. What are they teaching their children to be mevazeh another chasidus? so now i know not to be surprised when i see a chasididh kid in boro park ripping down a picture of a rebbe that was on a flyer. shouldn’t… Read more »

Dave
March 26, 2011 10:54 pm

It looks like they’re making fun of the Rebbe in one of the pictures….

Painful
March 26, 2011 10:49 pm

uNreal!! Do these people really realize what they’re doing?! Rachmonus on them!! what an absolute disrespect and chutzpah!

Nebach
March 26, 2011 10:48 pm

And by us in 700 it’s nebach purim all year!!

Please all commentators think before you comment
March 26, 2011 10:33 pm

Please all commentators think before you comment, the rebbe know who to defend his kavod, don`t add fuel to the fire it will not help resolve the issue what was done was wrong but it was already done.

Thank you

i'm sure no Lubavitchers ever...
March 26, 2011 10:32 pm

i’m sure no Lubavitchers ever put on a shtreimel and/or peyos on purim and ‘made fun’ of satmar…

Woah if they are making fun of chabad....
March 26, 2011 10:30 pm

IF THEY ARE… i will personally call up Obama, and tell him to. to I DONT KNOW }BUT GET RIDDA PPL WHO MAKE FUN OF CHABAD

SATMAR OWES US A PUBLIC APPOLOGY!
March 26, 2011 10:21 pm

EVEN WHEN TIME GOES BY, THINGS ARE NOT FREELY FORGIVEN

OY VEY
March 26, 2011 10:11 pm

OY……………….

resident
March 26, 2011 10:09 pm

we should get the content of what they said..

sorry to say....
March 26, 2011 10:07 pm

very bad taste.
and in the presence of their Rebbe.
they should be ashamed
mamash sad.

Satmar Judaism
March 26, 2011 10:06 pm

Is as shallow as the depth of their clothing.
There is nothing Jewish by violating one of the fundementals of Judaism.

kfjgb
March 26, 2011 10:06 pm

We make fun of them, it’s not surprising they make fun of us. You people need to take a chill pill.

Chutzpa!
March 26, 2011 10:05 pm

On Purim people (in Boro Park and Williamsburg) tend to poke fun and imitate Rebbes – but to do so at the OFFICIAL Purim gathering of Satmar in front of the Satmar Rebbe is totally disgusting and uncalled for!!

Satmar .....
March 26, 2011 10:04 pm

sure laugh at others it makes you forget YOUR major problems!!

sick
March 26, 2011 10:04 pm

a message to all those that say that satmar doesn’t hate us anymore…

who cares?
March 26, 2011 9:57 pm

who cares?

For Shame!!
March 26, 2011 9:57 pm

I am appalled of the actions of these so-called chassidim. I am very shocked at their Rebbe’s insensitivity and tacit approval of such a display of sinas chinam against a great Tzaddik, z’tl, and his chassidim. Their actions show their true colors.

oy vay
March 26, 2011 9:56 pm

that is a sick thing to do

explanation needed
March 26, 2011 9:53 pm

maybe somone should explain what this is all abuout

Double Standard
March 26, 2011 9:47 pm

And don’t we make fun of “‘snags”?

a disgrace and the problem is we bring it on ourselves
March 26, 2011 9:45 pm

with disgraceful meshichist behavior

I say we rent a world wresling ring and do a purim speil of zalman and aharon teitlenbaum as wrestlers

bla
March 26, 2011 9:30 pm

shreklich

Where is your appreciaton
March 26, 2011 9:29 pm

When Satmer needs a place to stay to come to Chabad so Don’t spit into the well you drink from.There is a lot more to make fun of Satmar than Chabbad

Rebbe?
March 26, 2011 9:27 pm

Is it supposed to be the rebbe z”tl?

My opinion
March 26, 2011 9:17 pm

Why take offense? They’re mocking Tzfatim and so do we. There’s a lot to make fun of!

I stopped becoming defensive when business associates mentions one of their antics, after realizing that I feel absolutely no “brudershaft” with them or their stupid minhogim.

They’re a different breed and not “chabad”.

moishe
March 26, 2011 9:14 pm

moshiach flags are not lubavitch and we walk around on purim w shtreimels and peyis, stop being so sensitive.

2 Brothers
March 26, 2011 9:08 pm

It is well know that whilst Reb Ahron of monroe is a friend of Chabad, Zaly of Williamsburg isnt, thats why he sat there laughing whilst they mocked Chabad.

Why do this?
March 26, 2011 9:07 pm

Seems a bit more disrespectful than a spiel… Boruch Chabad, [fill in the rest]?

Work with yoily,s
March 26, 2011 9:03 pm

They can laugh ,they will never have what we had ,they have a Purim shpiel all year long ,haha there making fun of us

ouch
March 26, 2011 9:00 pm

🙁

so not fonny!
March 26, 2011 9:00 pm

to mock other yidden is a shanda!

Big Costume Sat
March 26, 2011 8:57 pm

And which of us has not worn a satmar/chassidishe costume for purim? I say BH chabad can bring some simcha to these folks!

not surprised.
March 26, 2011 8:55 pm

do you blame them? unfortunately there is quite a lot to make fun of. But it’s all in the purim spirit, don’t take i personally.

Shocking
March 26, 2011 8:49 pm

I would just like everyone to be aware that there are two satmar Rebbes, R’ Zalman Leib in williamsburg and R’ Aaron in monroe. R’ Aaron has been making many overtures towards Lubavitch lately i.e. Sandek at a shliach’s bris, having french twins entertain at his daughter’s wedding, davening at a chabad house in florida etc…things that would have been unheard of a decade ago. This bizoyon of a Purim spiel is taking place at the rival court of R’ Zalman, seemingly as an expression of disapproval at R’ Aaron’s new found warmth towards Lubavitch…

do you blame them??????
March 26, 2011 8:47 pm

just walk in to 770 and you see a whole bunch of yo yo’s…this is all thanks to the fanatics.

CRAZY!!!!
March 26, 2011 8:46 pm
chutzpah
March 26, 2011 8:46 pm
aza
March 26, 2011 8:43 pm

chutzpeh the yoileis

Really??!!!
March 26, 2011 8:36 pm

Do they even know that the name “Satmar” comes from the name St. Marie? That they look and smell like….Anyway.. Thats what I thought!

No Surprise there
March 26, 2011 8:08 pm

Under all the photo ops and media, they still hate as much as they did, and are teaching their kids the same, just hang out there a bit and you will see everything.

DISGUSTING
March 26, 2011 7:30 pm

It’s Purim, but there are some limits not to cross!

chutzpah
March 26, 2011 6:12 pm

who gives them the breitkait!

helloooooooooooo?
March 26, 2011 5:46 pm

is that a Rebbe sitting there watching?

i'm offended
March 26, 2011 4:20 pm

i feel hurt that other yidden entertain themselves by making fun of other yidden, especially when its us thats being made fun of. its one thing in the privacy of ones home, but to do so publicly is not only offensive it is also wrong and educated the kids to make fun of chabad.

mendel
March 26, 2011 4:05 pm

I knew that the satmer’er would become meshichist

very nice!
March 26, 2011 3:09 pm

ppl dress up like what they really want to be…

do they have no lives to be mocking ours?
March 26, 2011 2:55 pm
Can't really blame them
March 26, 2011 11:42 am

If Chabad makes fun of Chabad, then how can we expect others not to

what's wrong ?
March 26, 2011 11:39 am

r we the only ones allowed to make fun of others on purim ?
and a guy with a flag is not chabad.

Purim Shame!
March 26, 2011 7:12 am

Thy should be ashamed of themselves! with their rebbe sitting on top let them make fun of themselves! there is enough of that for them. “purim ahin purim aher”,no excuse! FEH!!!!

feh
March 26, 2011 7:08 am

mamish disgusting

shame on them
March 26, 2011 6:25 am

Disgusting, as much as things have changed in the relationship bet. Satmar & Lubavitch, certain things will NEVER change till Moshiach Comes! This mocking should not be approved by them!

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