Feb 14, 2011
What's Kosher at Starbucks

Ever stand in line at Starbucks trying to remember if the cappuccino latte you want is kosher? Here's a guide to Starbucks beverages.

By Chicago Rabbinical Council

Starbucks shops serve many kosher and non-kosher items, with the most serious non-kosher item being hot meat sandwiches.

The standard daily clean up at Starbucks includes a hot wash of all utensils and some parts of that washing are done without soap.

This clean up process significantly challenges the kosher status of the otherwise kosher products and each product must be judged by a competent halachic authority.

The cRc will be printing a detailed review and analysis of this topic in the upcoming edition of The Journal of Halacha and Contemporary Society, and that article will subsequently be available on the cRc website.

The good news is that there are many Starbucks locations that do not serve hot meat sandwiches. These are generally the Starbucks kiosks that can be found in airports, department stores, supermarkets, etc., and at these locations the cRc is comfortable recommending any drink made from kosher ingredients (even though some others use ingredients that may not be kosher).

The list below is accurate at this time for stores in the United States, and does not address toppings and other items added to beverages.

Since the information on this list is subject to change, this list should not be used after June 30, 2011.



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1
question
only in USA or also brazil and wtvr?
(2/14/2011 2:38:40 PM)
2
CHOLOV YISROEL
Nothing the CRC wrote is relevant to those that adhere to the standards of Chalov Yisroel, including kashering non-Cholov Yisroel dishes as specified in Shulchan Aruch.
(2/14/2011 2:51:43 PM)
3
coffee
i was told that the day starbucks started serving hot MEAT TRAIFFFFFFsandwiches (18 months ago)it became exactly like ordering a coffee at mcdonalds !!!!!
(2/14/2011 2:52:57 PM)
4
great to know
thanks for publishing
(2/14/2011 3:02:40 PM)
5
Kosher Kiosk?
At some Kiosks they brew the coffee into a flask which they wash with everything else, why is brewed coffee any more kosher there?
(2/14/2011 3:04:51 PM)
6
Chaim
To #2

Not everyone is as stringent as you. The Heter of R' Moshe Feinstein in this matter is well known. If you wish to be more stringent by all means do so but there are many of us who do not feel the need to be that way.
(2/14/2011 3:05:34 PM)
7
cholov yisroel
Does cholov yisroel add any problems? If I order a regular brewed coffee & ask them to add soymilk (and watch is being poured straight from the container to my paper cup) is there anything else that could have problems with dairy equipment?
(2/14/2011 3:24:44 PM)
8
TO #6
Chaim, #2 was speaking to Lubavitchers who follow the Rebbe, Not Harav Feinstein.
And when i say Lubavitchers i mean those who follow the Shulchan Aruch......
(2/14/2011 3:30:25 PM)
9
Cholov Akum?
what about Cholov Akum????

The Rebbe says that one needs to KOSHER their utensils and pots if they were used with Cholov Akum (even with the "hechsher" of Reb Moshe z"l)
(2/14/2011 3:31:07 PM)
10
To # 6
I would like to know where R' Moshe's Heter is? The heter was only if you really must have milk (DR's orders), and if there would be a Hefsed Mrubah, which is not for 99% of Yidden.
So, what Heter?
(2/14/2011 3:31:32 PM)
11
CMP
The heter of rabbi moshe feinstein in his own words was only for people that lived in a situation where cholov yisroel milk was HARD TO GET and only someone who IS NOT A BEN TORAH should follow this heter! In his own words! And his heter doesnt cover the problem of milk that is milked from cows that have had a n operation for a displaced stomach which is very common these days and is not kept track of. The milk from these cows is treif from the torah. Also there is no hechser on the vitamens and emulsifiars put in the non cholov yisroel milk and these are commonly made from animal fats. So even according to rabbi moshes heter its very shaky to drink non cholov yisroel. And for those people who drink cholov yisroel utensils used for non cholov yisroel are treif and need to be kashured first before using.
(2/14/2011 3:32:35 PM)
12
To Chaim #6
R' Moshe Feinstein said clearly his Heter is for those poeple who anyway wouldn't eat cholov yisroel in order to be melamed zchus on them...
Someone who doesn't have cholov yisroel available is a different story. But living in America with it readily available everywhere. The "Kal She'Be'Kalim" in Tanya is referring to someone who walks into a store, buys all the cholov yisroel ice-cream and then buys all the non-cholov yisroel ice-cream ALSO. So being in America, if you don't keep cholov yisroel...
(2/14/2011 3:38:36 PM)
13
to 6
although well known it seems u know nothing about it
(2/14/2011 3:40:47 PM)
14
CMP
To number seven yes there is a problem because the coffee is hot and if they brewed hot coffee with non cholov yisroel milk then the utensil used is considered treif and needs to be kashered
(2/14/2011 3:42:07 PM)
15
#6 d
If you are a Chassid Chabad you must feel "the need to be that way" Reb Moshe's heter was only for extreme cases. He never meant it to apply to every Shnook who just "needs" a chalav akum frappaccino. it was for kids who lived in places where Chalav Yisroel was not readily available.
(2/14/2011 3:42:41 PM)
16
חלב ישראל
See Igros Kodesh Vol3 Letter # 668
בנוגע לשאלתו על דבר זה שמבשלים לפעמים חלב עכו"ם בהכלים שמבשלים בעד כל הבחורים, הנה אם אמת הוא בודאי יוכלו לפעול הוא וחבריו לאכול ממה שנתבשל בכלים אחרים.

Toras Menachem 5711 Vol. 2 pp 153

וע"ד המסופר (ד"ה כי נער ישראל תרס"ו) אודות הרה"צ ר' מנחם נחום מטשערנאָביל שפעם הגישו לו (ע"פ טעות) חלב עכו"ם, ולא ראהו, ואח"כ הסביר זאת ע"פ מאמר המשנה "חלב שחלבו עכו"ם ואין ישראל רואהו כו'", שהפירוש בזה, ש"חלב שחלבו עכו"ם" אזי "אין ישראל רואהו", יהודי אינו רואה זאת, שכן, מה שאינו נצרך לראות אינו רואה.

וההסברה בזה – שראיית הדבר היא כדי להעלותו לקדושה, ובמילא, דבר איסור, למשל, שאי-אפשר להעלותו, אין ישראל רואהו.
(2/14/2011 3:43:13 PM)
17
to #6
"many of us" i think you are very wrong
most lubavitchers or at least 95% eat only cholov yisroel
(2/14/2011 3:43:50 PM)
18
chalav akum is metamtem the moach and the lev
the Rebbe's opinion on this is well documented. Only Chalav Yisrael
(2/14/2011 3:52:41 PM)
19
Brewed coffee is not allowed!!!!???
According to the chart above the crc is forbidding brewed coffee. not because of chalav yisrael, but because of the meat sandwiches.

This would apply to those who keep chalav yisrael and those who dont
(2/14/2011 3:54:34 PM)
20
Doubts in Emunah…
Pleases see Igros Kodesh Vol 22 pp. 132

ונעם לי להודע מהצלחת פעולתו בהנוגע לחלב ישראל במחנם הט' ובפרט ע"פ סיפור הידוע מרבותינו נשיאינו, איך שחלב ישראל דוקא נוגע לחיזוק האמונה, וחלב שחלבו עכו"ם ואין ישראל רואהו, מביא ח"ו לספיקות באמונה, וק"ל.

ויהי רצון שתהי' הצלחה מלאה בהאמור וזכות הרבים מסייע אותו וכל אלה המשתדלים בזה.
(2/14/2011 3:59:16 PM)
21
Saw it with my own eyes
I past a Starbuch store in the late evening. I saw the employee place all the coffee item in a hot dishwasher together with other utensils that were not kosher. I've been telling people able this and no one believes me or maybe they dont WANT to bleve me because it's so convenient and the coffee smells so good.
Anyway, I'm vewry happy that a reliable Hesher organization has published this info.
(2/14/2011 4:33:30 PM)
22
yay
thank you so much for publishing this it was really very needed. everyone is always arguing about whats allowed and whats not.
(2/14/2011 4:45:38 PM)
23
brew basket
as far as i know the brew basket is built in and washed in place. they always use paper filters.
(2/14/2011 4:57:48 PM)
24
what about moca latte soy????
i know some flavors are 100% kosher, is moca one of them???
(2/14/2011 5:18:26 PM)
25
to 9
"The Rebbe says that one needs to KOSHER their utensils and pots if they were used with Cholov Akum (even with the "hechsher" of Reb Moshe z"l)"

btw it's shulchan aruch, not something the rebbe came up with (unless when you say the rebbe you mean the alter rebbe)
(2/14/2011 5:26:06 PM)
26
Five Myths
Myth 1. "They wouldn't put milk into their pots for black coffee." While mostly true, there are many, many times when coffee pots are brewed with milk. Thermos are a lot more likely to have had hot milk in them. And if its a Abdulla corner store, how on earth can you know that their thermos' were not use for oyster soup.

Myth 2. "Nothing wrong with black coffee in a paper cup." Even if you order plain black coffee in a paper cup, ask the employee where his paws were before smushing down that plastic lid onto your paper cup. This is why I won't touch even a Poland Spring water bottle from a Burger King.

Myth 3. "Soymilk is fine." First of all, you need to ask to see that their soymilk bottle has a hechsher. Second, even if the bottle has a hechsher, I have never yet found a soymilk bottle in a Starbucks who's hechsher is pareve. It is almost always an OU-D. "But its not OU-D, its OU-DE, dairy equipment." Sorry, but dairy equipment doesn't make it cholov yisroel.

Myth 4. "It's ok to ask them to put the orange jouice (with a hechsher) into their blender with ice". Don't tell me that blender was not used for hot. Oh, the steel blades that chop your ice cubes are charif making it more complicated

Myth 5. "fine, if you want you could be machmir, but not everybody has to be machmir." I always hear this one. This is the biggest shtus out there. get it though your head its not chumres here, it is plain simple shulchan aruch. Its black and white, either all the way mutar or all the way assur.
(2/14/2011 5:38:52 PM)
27
Soy Milk
I was once in a Starbucks and checked the Soy Milk container. It had a hechsher with a "DE" next to it. This means it was made in dairy equipment. So although it is not dairy, it was made in non cholov yisroel equipment - which is problematic for one who keeps cholov yisroel.
(2/14/2011 6:21:25 PM)
28
Chabad Don't Compromise!
It is well known that Rav Moshe Feinstein permitted - in his exact words - the milk of companies. (not chalav yisrael). In fact, the entire Feinstein family including Rav Moshe was never personally makpid on Chalav Yisroel.

So what!

Our Poskim of Anash 100% agree that it is our Minhag to driink only Chalav Yisroel and equipment kashered at 212 degrees.

Thank you for sharing this article but it's mostly irrelevant for Anash.

(2/14/2011 6:26:31 PM)
29
shtusim she'be'shtusim
The "heter" of Reb Moshe Z"L is b'chlallal NOT relevant today - due to the issues with procedures being done among the cows that are milked for cholov stam!
There are serious kashrus problems - that are rampant in the cholov stam industry - to the point that leading kashrus authorities are saying that it's no longer a viable option to have cholov stam, and one should ONLY use cholov yisroel for a whole year.
(2/14/2011 7:09:18 PM)
30
Moshe
Once I went to a Starbucks and they were out of the soy-milk they usually use, so they were using a non-Kosher brand, make sure you see what they are using!
(2/14/2011 7:09:34 PM)
31
To all who have replied to #6 and To #6
#6 is correct in the aspect that not everyone is stringent in the laws of chalav yisrael. However, #2 stated clearly “to those that adhere to the standards of Chalov Yisroel” So why does #6 feel the need to reply to someone who was not addressing him (assuming that #6 does not “adhere to the standards of Chalov Yisroel”, and if he/she does “adhere to the standards of Chalov Yisroel” then again why are you replying for those who this #2’s message is not addressed to.) obviously, you are really feeling guilty about something……. Or you are just really unintelligent (to assume the number that he meant everyone, when he stated clearly…..)
(2/14/2011 7:22:45 PM)
32
Elchonon Hellinger
I am writing this from starbucks in north miami beach florida 163rd st and 22nd ave.

After reading this, I went to the barristas here who showed me the whole kitchen and cleaning process.

They do not put any coffee related stuff in the dishwashers.. only the food items go in.. the pitchers for ice coffee and tea are washed in the sink which is near the drink preperation area and nothing else goes there.

As far as regular coffee they use disposable filters and do not wash anything.

The CRC needs to research right and contact starbucks for a operational procedure before publishing garbage.
(2/14/2011 7:47:39 PM)
33
Black Coffee=kosher?
I always thought that we can get plain black coffee anywhere--is that not the case?

Please answer
(2/14/2011 7:52:08 PM)
34
Elchonon Hellinger
#21,
Which items are you talking about ? for a reg cup of coffee theres nothing for them to wash, for a iced coffee i just wrote about.

btw whether you hold on rav moshe's psak on chalav akum or not (i dont) his argument on FDA regulations and the like hold true for starbucks in terms of dairy and pareve according to the shach in taruvos we rely on the goy becuse he is concerned about his job.

Starbucks relies on a streamlined drink preparation, with careful restrictions on the way stuff is handled to protect taste and lactose intolerant people
(2/14/2011 7:52:12 PM)
35
WHT? CONFUESED?
even the soy pitcher is washed in the dishwasher together with the trief dishes?!!?!?!?!?!?
(2/14/2011 7:56:37 PM)
36
Cholov Yisrael?
As far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, even to have Starbucks heat up soy milk (for a latte or an iced latte which they heat up then pour on ice) is problematic, since the steam nozzle they use to heat it up with is also used for actual milk. So when they heat up the soy milk it mixes in what was absorbed from the Cholov Akim milk, now making the soy milk Cholov Akim as well.

That being said, does anyone know what the CRC policy is in regard to the Cholov Yisrael issue?
(2/14/2011 8:04:54 PM)
37
To #7
Their soy milk is almost always a dairy product. Unless you personally check the container of the soy milk, assume it is cholov stam.
(2/14/2011 8:19:06 PM)
38
New slogan for Starbucks
"Starbucks - Part of your Shlichus"

- based on what an active Shliach told me that the best way to meet yidden these days to spend a few hours at Starbucks once a week.
(2/14/2011 9:10:38 PM)
39
tea lounge
Maybe someone should make the same chart for the tea lounge in brooklyn... where everyone THINKS that everything is kosher, just like in starbucks!!
(2/14/2011 9:50:03 PM)
40
Cholav akum
Check out torah cafe's "got milk" rabbi Fogelman explains it in plain simple English
(2/14/2011 9:50:47 PM)
41
#23
My friend used to work at a coffee shop and has been saying for years that most employees just throw the brew basket into the dishwasher out of laziness.
(2/14/2011 10:07:06 PM)
42
cholov akum
the heter of reb moshe does not apply nowadays
(2/14/2011 10:26:47 PM)
43
starbucks
The actual black coffee containers have electrical parts on the bottom so they can not be washed in the sink .In most places they wash them in their place by running hot water through them with a sanitizer pill. The same procedure is done with the espresso machine , at the end of the day they run the water through with sanitizer pill. All the other utensils are a problem including the glass shots the metal spoons and cups that they use for mixing , and the blender.
(2/14/2011 10:45:40 PM)
44
irui m'kli rishon
Regarding #23: what about the concern (Taz 27 on Sh"A 92:7) that irui shelo nifsak hakiluach is comparable to noggim ze be ze? The Taz brings the opinion of the Rashal that says that the heter is ossur kulo.

Isn't this a concern that someone will pour the coffee directly from the urn onto a treif milk/topping/flavor?
(2/14/2011 10:59:53 PM)
45
I had a brewed coffee today.
I would like to know the reason for the brewed coffee being an issue. As far as I know, they wash the brewed coffee dishes in a separate basket and soap is used. soap makes everything "Ta'am Pogum". Even though soap is not a "lechatchila" alternative, it is "Mutar B'dieved".
(2/14/2011 11:34:17 PM)
46
Starbucks is kosher, period
Every yid in Manhattan I see is holding a Starbucks coffee cup.
(2/14/2011 11:39:02 PM)
47
finally....
listen, the brew basket is very often placed in a dishwasher with treif items. trust me, i've done it myself working as a barista thousands of times. that's why it's a problem. if you want kosher at starbucks stick with espresso dropped into a disposable cup (or americano or iced soy latte...anything that doesn't use the steam wand) or hot tea. to be honest, the coffee at some non kosher restaurants are much safer since they don't wash the coffee equipment with the rest.
(2/15/2011 8:36:49 AM)
48
brewed coffee
#45:
Employees are not watched all the time, they are supposed to wash baskets where the coffee is brewed with soap but they don't. I worked at Starbucks as a supervisor and BELIEVE ME there is no "mashgiach" who makes sure employees follow the washing and cleaning protocol, as long as thing look put together and clean, with so many other responsibilities in a store like SBux most people close an eye on details
#47 Right on!
(2/15/2011 9:54:14 AM)
49
brewed coffee
#35
Yes soy pitcher is washed with everything else. Either way steamed soy or in case you dont keep ch'yisroel is a problem because they use the same steaming wand.
During the goyishe holidays they steam a drink that is TREIF ( not even cholov stam I am saying TREIF) that is EGGNOG...so not only they use the steaming wand to heat up cholov stam but also they heat up -after wiping it with a cloth- the soy milk or whatever milk you'd order...No hot drinks at Starbucks for me. Especially Eggnog latte being in the menu.
(2/15/2011 10:01:24 AM)
50
Tp Elchonon
Dear ELchonon Hellinger
Sadly, I worked myself in several Starbucks store and NOT ALL EMPLOYEES do what they are supposed to do AND it is not a big deal, it is not something a manager or anybody sweats about, the coffee baskets are supposed to be washed by the way. And I find that the CRC did a good job at bringing up the issue finally.
(2/15/2011 10:04:40 AM)
51
Just To Clarify
To #36
A Iced Latte inst heated up with the steam nozzle. it maybe a little hot from the espresso shots the put in the latte which crc says is fine as long as they dont use their glass shot-glass, instead you have to ask them to put you cup directly under the espresso machine so like this you skip out the glass shot glass. Hot lattes on the other hand do use the nozzle to froth the milk and therefore is clearly a problem.

To #37
Starbucks USED to use DE soy milk 2-3 years ago, NOW they get soy milk specially made for them that is totally parev. The problem is that when a store runs out of there Soy milk (its in a light brown box) they go to the local store and by any brand (including brands that are OU-DE) as Moshe in comment # 30 stated.
(2/15/2011 10:06:11 AM)
52
to 41, 47
I'm not a Rov, but wouldn't the dishwashing detergent make it noison taam lifgam, thus making it kosher, and if it is indeed so, would you be able to lechatchilah drink from their?

Also, what's the deal with Jamba Juice if you are having in it only fresh squeezed juice as the base and only with fresh fruit in the smoothie? (meaning no frozen yogurt inside etc.) It is worth noting, that they use a fresh blender for each order and was each before next use. They therefore have about forty blender pitchers in each store.
(2/15/2011 10:17:14 AM)
53
What are the Kiosk stores?
Are these the ones that are often found at Target stores?
(2/15/2011 11:17:41 AM)
54
ashreinu!
i love reading these comments. look at how we fight for kashrus - which we dont understand - because Hashem said. dont compromise!
(2/15/2011 1:11:55 PM)
55
Elchonon Hellinger
#50,
I will go back to starbucks and personally talk to every employee there.

#2 if this is really a issue, why not contact starbucks corporate ? it should be a very simple issue of getting a hashgacha on their drinks. the OU I believe gives a hechsher on the beans.

(2/15/2011 2:24:01 PM)
56
reb Moshe Feinstein heter
Was to be used only if a person found themselves in a place where they weren't able to get any cholov yisroel,
Its sad when a heter becomes a way of getting out of doing the right thing because its easier ...
Did you ever question how careful the people in these places are with mixing the utensils or how they clean or what they use to clean out the containers with, its your call, if you concience is okay with it.
(2/15/2011 3:04:23 PM)
57
It's a shame for non-LA residents...
In LA, we have a cholov yisroel coffee bean that serves the most amazing drinks!!
From what it looks like on that list above, you're best off just not even bothering with it, you're sooo limited, such a tease.
(2/15/2011 3:10:55 PM)
58
CH Starbucks
to avoid all future issues Starbucks will be opening a Chalav Yisrael Kiosk in Kol Tuv
(2/15/2011 3:25:03 PM)
59
Expresso Is Cholov Akum
The steamer to boil the milk is from the same steam source that is used to create the espresso. Thank You Collive for posting this important post.
(2/15/2011 5:31:02 PM)
60
To #57
It's not as 'Cholov Yisroel' as you think. I've heard enough stories about them substituting cholov akum for cholov yisroel that I dont go there at all
(2/15/2011 6:06:13 PM)
61
To #57
I heard a Lubavicher Rav say that:
ALTHOUGH espresso technically avoids all washing problems since nothing goes into the sink, it is on the same metal machine as the foamer, and thus creates a chalav akum problem. If this is the case, then NEITHER the black OR the espresso/americano is OK for us....?
(2/15/2011 8:12:45 PM)
62
WAIT
WHATS WRONG WITH VIVANO SMOOTHIES!? NOTHING! its PURE kosher jiuce mixed with Soy milk and if u specify no protien its completely fine. CARE TO EXPLAIN!?!?!
(2/15/2011 8:36:33 PM)
63
Elchonon Hellinger
Please go to starbucks.com and contact them, I emailed them that it should not be a big issue to get a hechsher
(2/15/2011 8:46:04 PM)
64
BASIL Coffee is Better anyway
Basil has the best coffee and lattes, cholov yisroel through and through.
(2/15/2011 10:39:55 PM)
65
Expresso
NEITHER the black OR the espresso/americano is OK for us. Dot
(2/16/2011 9:25:43 AM)
66
former barista....back again...
listen....the espresso/americanos are fine. the parts of the espresso machine are cleaned by hand. you cannot just throw them in the dishwaher. they are very carefully cleaned and if you were to even try and skimp and throw a part in the diswasher you would be in serious trouble since those parts are very expensive and sensitive. the espresso comes from the same machine as the cholov stam steam wand but does not come in contact at all with any part of the wand, it's fine. iced soy lattes are fine if you check the soy and have them drop the shot into a disposible cup...they are not heated by the wand.
i don't see why starbucks would care about the kshrus of their stores, quite frankly. they are not intended to be kosher restaurants...i mean, they sell bacon sandwiches! and the employees are not being lax about kashrus by throwing the brewbaskets in the wash since kashrus is not even a concern at starbucks, no employee there is ever instructed on kashrus. so yeah, their beans are hecshered but there drinks are just not going to be.
and not that it matters but eggnog is just cream, eggs, and spices not treif treif. teh stuff that is packaged does not have brandy in it.
(2/16/2011 3:01:50 PM)
67
Please realize- that heter is not for you!
R' Moshe was helping Yidden who were UNABLE to get Cholov Yisroel. But he himself never used his own Heter. Doesn't that tell us something? Unless you live somewhere where Cholov Yisroel is not available- Cholov Akum is not for you.
(2/16/2011 4:07:54 PM)
68
Americano not kosher
Even the americano is brewed through the metal filter which is placed in their trief dishwasher every evening.
(2/16/2011 5:03:24 PM)
69
espresso vs. brewed coffee
#68 the americano is NOT brewed through the same filter that is placed in the dishwasher. it is the brew basket of the drip machine that is put on the dishwasher. an americano is made from espresso shots in hot water. no parts of the espresso machine are ever placed in the dishwasher by any sane barista. you cannot get the espresso filter clean without hand scrubbing it quite thoroughly with special product and it is a very expensive and small part that you wouldn't want to throw in anyway. that's not to say that somebody couldn't do it but it just wouldn't work and when working as a barista i've never done it or seen anyone do it. it would be a major no-no. having been there done that as a barista i would have no qualms about an espresso shot (as an americano or as a pareve iced soy latte) however, the fact is, if you are being very careful, the fact is that you are ordering a hot prepared drink from a trief restaurant so take it as that. if you wouldn't feel comfortable getting a coffee from a fast food joint than why starbucks?
(2/17/2011 9:12:21 AM)
70
Relax
Oh Please!Leave people do what they feel comfortable of doing!
If someone think that is better because is keeping chalav israel, im sorry but you are completely wrong. This is your option of doing, but doesn't mean that the others hashgachot aren't kosher.
(2/17/2011 10:59:55 AM)
71
i dont see the big change
people have always known that plain coffees(in disposables)as well as iced lattes are fine...if anyone wants to keep a chumra on themselves fine you dont need to force it on others... its very easy to be machmir because you dont have to know anything....
(2/18/2011 1:36:15 AM)
72
the facts are facts
listen, everyone is getting so upset about losing starbucks because it was easy! nothing easy in life is rewarding!! its pure traif there! so just keep striving to do mitzvos and get your coffee somewhere else!!
(2/18/2011 8:12:51 AM)
73
starbucks fan
baruch dayann emes
(2/18/2011 11:18:27 AM)
74
to #38
very true point. last year on my Mivtzoim route in Paramus, nj, my Chavrusa and I sat down in Starbucks for a coffee, where we met a Jew and put on Tefillin with him for the first time in his life. That`s right, a "karkafta"!
(3/2/2011 4:28:05 AM)
75
Tired mom
yes starbucks is easy and that's why I love it! As a mother who is up late many nights and running around in my car during the day, it's nice to know I always have someplace I can go for a quick caffeine fix. It takes a lot of energy doing as many mitzvos as possible. After reading all of these posts
I disagree completely that the coffee is treif and therefore will not be mourning anything, everyone else can enjoy their Shiva.
(3/3/2011 1:59:58 AM)
76
Ummm...to #75
What about Coffee Bean??? You live in LA, right? Coffee Bean is waaaay better.
(3/3/2011 6:55:41 PM)
77
R' Moshe Feinstein
It is clear that many of those who are speaking as authorities on the dinnim of R' Feintstein have never read his letters. Being as there were more than one letter written on the issue of Cholov stam where he unequivicably says that milk certified by the FDA is completely permitted for one to drink. If a person has already only drink cholov yisrael they should not change to cholov stam and he goes on to encourage others to be machmir in this matter just as he is (i.e. keeps cholov Yisrael). One should be very careful to actually read ALL of the dinnim written on a subject before alerting everyone around to their own ignorance.
This link may help those who wish to learn more about this. http://matzav.com/rav-moshe-feinsteins-heter-of-cholov-stam-revisited
(7/9/2012 9:52:05 AM)
78
sheesh! its just a coffee
why take chances in a place thats not kosher? Relying on goyim .. assuming they are doing such and such so you can have a dumb coffee? Is it worth the risk that maybe something was not ok in the process? be strong ..overcome your temptations and go to a kosher store to get your dumb coffee
(9/4/2012 10:05:03 PM)
79
International or just us ?
Does this apply to international Starbucks or only in us ?
(3/5/2013 11:10:06 PM)
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