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Rabbi Braun Officially Inaugurated

The hachtara ceremony for Crown Heights' new Rabbi Yossi Braun took place Sunday night in 770 Eastern Parkway with a packed crowd. COLlive reporters updated throughout. Full Story, Photos, Video

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Fact
January 22, 2011 10:09 pm

Zaki doesnt even know who I am yet. However, I will tell you a fact that has been verified, Zaki Tamir never takes any steps affecting the Vaad or beis din without consulting the rabbonim in advance. He is a man that shows everyone respect and NEVER SAYS ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ANYONE!. Zaki is helping the Crown Heights community in so many ways that would blow peoples mind away if you only knew. MAny people do know and are appreciative. Go up to Rabbi Osdaba and ask him, go over to Rabbi Osdaba and ask him! Zaki is a man… Read more »

onlooker
January 18, 2011 1:35 am

just interesting when rav braun shalita came in to 770 for the hachtare their was one person he went to give a kiss to , mendel hendel ,just interesting.

to #25
January 17, 2011 11:55 pm

“Gut Yom Tov ” was because of Yud Aleph Shvat- officially the day the Rebbe took on Nesius.

Why is there no clarity?
January 17, 2011 11:49 pm

I LOVE YOU, PEOPLE
Let’s daven for Moshiach

I was there
January 17, 2011 10:33 pm

Yes there were LOTS of people. 770 was packed. Numbers I don’t know, but it was a PACKED HOUSE

Yes, there were LOTS of Baalei Batim.

Yes, Rabbi Braun is/was a valid candidate.

No, it is not respectful to contradict a Zabla Beis Din of Talmidei Chachomim.

Be Positive
January 17, 2011 10:27 pm

We should all be steadfastly POSITIVE. Those who are negative by nature are trying to drag CH down by being constantly negative. The way to overcome this is to be more and more POSITIVE! As the Tzemach Tzedek said that we should be “day workers.” Let’s spread the light of Torah and Chasidus and that will be the best help for our new Rav to accomplish bringing Achdus to our holy community. Moshiach NOW!

from the outside
January 17, 2011 5:41 pm

as an outsider reading your notes here, it seems to me there is a lot of bitterness that has to be dealt with, post Gimel Tamuz, people are hurting, especially when the next generation are losing interest, it is time for a unified front, for achdus, for leadership, for direction, for focus, in order to progress, and move forward to greet Moshiach Zidkeinu, Ba’agola Didan.

nice
January 17, 2011 4:43 pm

nice pictures

Question
January 17, 2011 4:13 pm

3000? From the pictures it would be a long stretch to est. half that amount.

So, does he have Smicha or not?!

To 162
January 17, 2011 4:04 pm

Your argument re look at the comments are absurd. Perhaps there is 70% of the people of ch who post that are on R Osdobo’s side. The only way to know how everyone feels is to do a true poll of the shchuna. Regardless, of all that, he was voted in by the majority whether you like it or not. He won the elections. like Gore v. Bush. I am unimpressed that you went to college, perhaps thats why you have no Daas Torah whatsoever and you have no say compared to the Rabbonim. And what do you say to… Read more »

Only Bochurim?
January 17, 2011 3:50 pm

They are many here who are speaking nonsense. The majority of those who attended the hachtarah were in no way Bochurim. Yes, there were a lot of Bochurim, but look at the pictures and you will see that most of those present were local CHeighters, meshichisten and non-meshichisten.

Rav Osdoba’s call for boycott was a failure and the community sent him a strong message: if you don’t want peace, stay home or resign, but the community wants peace, with or without you!

its been years
January 17, 2011 3:43 pm

since i have been a bochur in 770, and bh i have a family, job, etc. while i still see the same people hanging out in 770, just their beards get whiter so they get promoted to sit closer to the front
i do not see the hundreds of young hard working anash of ch that daven in the countless shuls from eastern parkway to maple st

b a n k r u p t
January 17, 2011 2:57 pm

CH is morally and spiritually BANKRUPT!

Below is a proposal from of an open-minded, honest and modest, objective, critically-thinking, intellectual, Yeshiva & Simcha (full system, no skimping)/University (after marriage) educated Lubavitcher.
January 17, 2011 2:39 pm

Final point,

For the survey to be valid, you must clearly list each article you have taken your data from. For details why look up reliability, validity and testable.

:-)
January 17, 2011 2:33 pm

Keep it positive? Yes, ideally.

But how can we teach our children that it’s not okay to cheat their way through Yeshiva, when the rov got in that way?

Making “peace” with this whole load of nonsense is not in pursuit of Shalom, it’s a display of dishonesty, and laziness. We must deal with the matter appropriately.

If he wasn’t a mishechist, and didn’t win the election purely on that card, he would NOT be receiving the support he is. This is very biased support.

A Patch In Ponim? Chas V-shalom!
January 17, 2011 2:30 pm

It’s the furthest thing from ‘a patch in ponim’. It’s the community saying: we want a stable bais din = 3 rabbonim. And we accept the psak din of the zablo that was given the task to set the stage for proper community leadership and not dictatorship.

This was NOT against anyone. It was FOR the future stability and health of our entire community.

We need all 3 Rabbonim!

We fully respect all 3 Rabbonim!

sidebar
January 17, 2011 2:26 pm

Did anyone notice how hendel slipped out the back? This guy is unbelievable, he made this big mess, accomplished that there be a Hachtara he didn’t care that there was not one Crown Heights Moised represented at the event. He did not care whether Rabbi Braun was qualified or not, he just wanted to hurt Rabbi osdoba. Now that there is real work to be done, like pay salaries fix the mess that resulted from this fight. Abra Cadabra he is gone. He did the same thing by the Yeshivah mess. If you look at the way he operates, he… Read more »

You hippy liberals
January 17, 2011 2:25 pm

You through around “let’s make peace” jargon.

Peace does not conclude giving in to dishonesty.

To # 92
January 17, 2011 2:21 pm

The amount of people in attendance has nothing to do with approval ratings. And how dare you assume what people are feeling inside, you have no idea unless you ask.

See the comment on talking a scientific survey.

Rent a crowd?
January 17, 2011 2:14 pm

Here are the simple facts as documented by COLLIVE:

“9:02: The main shul of 770 Eastern Parkway is packed for the hachtara inauguration ceremony for Rabbi Yosef Yeshaya Braun”

“9:11 PM: Oholei Torah Zal was dismissed to go to the event. Rabbi Shmarya Roitblat told bochurim that “the Rebbe wanted it to be b’rov an hadras melech.” Bochurim were seen walking with him to 770″

question: how was 770 “packed” at 9:02 when the rent a crowd began when Hravo Roitblat dismissed the bochrim at 9:11? (and it also takes some time to walk over to 770)

Below is a proposal from of an open-minded, honest and modest, objective, critically-thinking, intellectual, Yeshiva & Simcha (full system, no skimping)/University (after marriage) educated Lubavitcher.
January 17, 2011 2:13 pm

To 81 & 86 and the other who try to assume the new “rov” have communal approval based on the audience size last night. In the past, when a rov joined the Badatz with less controversy (and hence, more communal approval) there was always a smaller crowd— per capita taken into account. So clearly “Rov approval” and number of attendees have no correlation. (And for the few people out there that took statistics I know that correlation does not prove causation, but as you can see I am including other variables, so thank you very much). If one had time… Read more »

repeat a lie
January 17, 2011 2:10 pm

why repeat the mantra: he doesn’t have semicha? Didn’t you hear the new? ALL of the arguments being made Rabbi Osdobo, Reb Yoel etc were brought up to the Zablo Beid Din. The Rabbonim listened to the arguments, then they set out to investigate the facts, and you know what their unanimous conclusion = daas torah was? Rabbi Braun has and had semicha! and that recently he also got dayanus. so who are you trying to sell the Brooklyn bridge to? you cannot accept that the psak din doesn’t assist your political agenda? Do you think that if you repeat… Read more »

The Rebbe's people
January 17, 2011 2:03 pm

The CH community has slowly pushed out anyone who was anything in the Rebbes days, pushing out Rabbi Osdaba is the final nail in the coffin.

3.000 people
January 17, 2011 2:03 pm

3.000 people for sure – the place was packed wall to wall!

Yehuda
January 17, 2011 1:56 pm

I agree., I was there, there was easily 3,000 people. Especially with many leaving early and people coming later.

shocked
January 17, 2011 1:45 pm

rabbi osdoba you dont say anything for yoursefl if you need to chnage your mind every five inutes

oy vei
January 17, 2011 1:33 pm

how could it b that some political people making seder in the shchuna????

and let’s check weather the rebbe allow to get a new rav when the main rav AGAINST

Attention!!!!
January 17, 2011 12:56 pm

Rabbi Groner was not there
Rabbi Krinsky was not there
Rabbi Heller was not there
Rabbi ASDOBA was not there
The Community was not there.
what do you call that?

MAZAL TOV
January 17, 2011 12:53 pm

MAZAL TOV Rav Braun!!!
If anyone has any chances of fixing ch, it’s you!
I am very impressed.
We chose the right man for the job!

wishing him much Hatzlocho
January 17, 2011 12:22 pm

Rabbi Braun,

Wishing you lots of Hatzlacha and easy work.
MAY YOU BE ZOCHE TO BRING AT LAST THE PIECE AND HARMONY WE SO NEED.

sad dad
January 17, 2011 12:16 pm

“wow it was packed” and all the other bug eyed comments….it was packed with OT and yungerleit. I see no baal habatim and I MEAN BAAL HABATIM for those that have no clue.
That said, what a utter shame. The whole event was just another low point for us here in CH.
How sad!
At least the color war banners gave the event a more festive flavor, a broch!

Thank G-d
January 17, 2011 12:10 pm

Boroch Atu Shehachiyanu vecholo…

why pictures don't tell the story
January 17, 2011 12:04 pm

You only see people who came very early. Most busy people didn’t not come until 10, but by then there was no place in the middle, so all the balei batim you don’t see in pictures were just standing further away. I was there and 770 *was* in fact packed.

i figured it out
January 17, 2011 11:55 am

i just figured out the problem.

when i looked at the pictures, and i see the pepole in the crowd, and on the head table, and i look back at the kinus hashluchim, i see the diffrence from what is left over in CH and what is out there doing the rebbes work.

look and you will see the same thing. you dont have to look that hard.

a sad day for crown heights
January 17, 2011 11:54 am

on many, many, many levels

this is not a fresh beginning, it’s just more fuel to the machlokes.

i think that most people, regardless of whether or not they support this hachtara, know that this only will complicate crown heights’ politics .

comment #109,
January 17, 2011 11:53 am

you are 1000% wrong. the overwhelming majority want to see the beth din function is a strong, healthy, positive and unified voice. we are the people who always supported the beth din – and will continue to always support a unified beth din. all the ‘askanim’, ‘helpers’ & ‘handlers’ on both sides “must” go immediately. they are the source of all our problems.. if you would leave the Rabbonim “alone” in their office to work out their differences, without the ‘help’ of the above mentioned, we would be in much better shape. we support the rabbonim. pleeeease get rid of… Read more »

A Patch In Ponim? Chas Veshalom!
January 17, 2011 11:45 am

Its the furthest thing from ‘a patch in ponim’. It’s the community saying: we want a stable bais din = 3 rabbonim. And we accept the psak din of the zablo that was given the task to set the stage for proper community leadership and not dictatorship.

This was NOT against anyone. It was FOR the future stability and health of our entire community.

We need all 3 Rabbonim!

We fully respect all 3 Rabbonim!

Wow
January 17, 2011 11:44 am

Rabbi Braun, you really impressed us last night.
We are looking forward, as the winds of change are blowing for the good!@

#90
January 17, 2011 11:40 am

To me, Rabbi Osdobo is very relevant! He is one of the 3 Rabbonim elected by the entire community!

He needs to be encouraged to sit down with the newly elected rov and see if they can find common ground. As far as I know, there is no personal animas between them. I don’t think they ever interacted with each other in a meaningful way.

Let bygones be bygones. Let all 3 Chavray Habadat”z sit together and try to work towards the betterment of the entire community.

Mazel Tov!
January 17, 2011 11:31 am

Mazel Tov! Horav Braun Shlit’ah, yairich yamim al mamlachto.

great show of unity
January 17, 2011 11:23 am

This Hachtara was a great show of unity. Mazal Tov!

MAZAL TOV RABBI BRAUN
January 17, 2011 11:20 am

CH NEEDS A BIG CHANGE AND RABBI BRAUN IS THE RIGHT ROV IN THE RIGTH TIME >>>>HATZLOCHO RABO<<<<

Rabbi Broin was great
January 17, 2011 11:13 am

I felt proud to be a Lubavitcher when Rabbi Braun spoke more than I have felt in a long time.
The “ashamed” lubavs should try to refrain from making such comments, the people in 770 were interested in making lasting peace and moving on with life.
Dovid Chaim.

Thank you, Rabbi Osdoba
January 17, 2011 11:03 am

The crowd was unified and blessedly free from hoodlums, terrorists and those dedicated to destroy the Beis Din. What a Kiddish Hashem!

are you
January 17, 2011 11:02 am

allowed me make a sh’hechyunu liked someone did

to the naysayers
January 17, 2011 11:00 am

do those (very few) of you who question Rabbi Braun’s credentials and knowledge of Torah and Halacha – if you want to be honest with yourself, go over to him and speak with him in learning. I’m pretty sure that after 2 minutes, (most of) you will be totally lost.

This man is a serious Talmid Chacham – he is not in your league. you know what? prove me wrong!

He didn’t get semicha? are you sure? what do Rabbi’s Rosenberg, Kuperman, Hecht, Yurkovitch and Havlin say?

Healing
January 17, 2011 10:54 am

Rabbi Ozdabo’s intentions was good, when he will sit down with Rabbi Broun he will be impressed and his fears will disapear. Its time to move on and support the new Rav and the entire Beth Din.
Every family should pay the Mass Hakahal so the Rabonim could do their job without looking for suplemental side jobs.
Zaki, we are proud of you, Chazak, you took the bull by the horn, you live up to your responsibilities while your friends are shying away!!

hatzlacha raba
January 17, 2011 10:47 am

As a young yungerman, I’m pleasantly surprised to see a rov full of youth and vigor, who speaks my language, when he gives a speech – he doesn’t boar the $#@ out of me (even in a long speech). He seems bright and sharp. I wish him the very best and hope he succeeds in elevating the spiritual level of our great community.

Let us give him a chance to succeed.

Very optomistic
January 17, 2011 10:38 am

I was very skeptical. I didn’t vote at all. Last night’s hachtara gave me good vibes and I really feel there is a good possibility that Rabbi Braun is the man to save the current situation with the local rabbanus.

He seems very capable, dynamic, young and determined. I wish him hatzlocho rabo umuflogo. Anyone that can – should assist him in helping improve the spiritual matzav of our shcuna. Yaarich yamim al mamlacto

bekovodik event
January 17, 2011 10:31 am

If anyone wants to argue that it was full of bochrim and very little baaley batim – it’s wishful thinking (and then you blame the radical tzfatim of suffering from hallucination…) – its how you would of hoped it would of turned out.

Truth as known by anyone in attendance last night – it was a huge crowd – much much more then anticipated and expected.

half hour meeting!
January 17, 2011 10:23 am

I heard from several different people that yesterday, while on a stopover in California, Rabbi Braun personally called Rabbi Osdobo, and asked to sit down with him privately – before – the hachtara ceremony and he will try to clear up all of Rabbi Osdobo’s doubts about him.

I think that Rabbi Osdobo should be encouraged to sit down with him for at least a half hour private meeting to see if is doubts are well founded or not.

We must give achdus and sholom a real chance.

perpetuating a lie
January 17, 2011 10:17 am

Do you think that the more times you repeat a lie – it makes it the truth?

The zablo beis din of 5 distinguished Rabbonim state clearly that he HAS semicha. They have seen it.

He is NOT obligated to show it to YOU. He showed it to the RABBONIM in charge of the election process.

TO 71
January 17, 2011 10:12 am

Is Shea Hecht a laydagayer, this is just one person I am listing, there were many others

lets
January 17, 2011 10:09 am

lets not kid ourselves, the Hactara happened, but you can count 183 maried pepole, out of 1.000 votes,

this is not waht we were hoping for, this was suposed to be the “big deal” without mentioning names. look who wanst there… and you will see what i mean.

what a shame. that we could of and should of had a normal event. instead it was the same old junk

emest ma nehedar
January 17, 2011 9:42 am

I don’t remember such a great event last 10 years… b”h

Empire St. resident
January 17, 2011 9:39 am

He’s not my rov.

I also would like to take this opportunity to thank Rabbi Kantor for taking principled stands. I don’t think it was fashionable to write all the words he wrote but he was the voice of many such as myself.

Want to move out
January 17, 2011 9:37 am

If it wasn’t by the fact that I am beholden to my family, I would move out of Lubavitch to Bobov or Beltz.

out of towner watching on line
January 17, 2011 9:35 am

where were the maskirim? where was aguch? where were the mashpiim? where were the elder chassidim? where were the other people of the community? makes you wonder no?

Very emotional event..
January 17, 2011 9:31 am

Mazel Tov Rabbi Braun, I am very excited that we have chosen such a wonderful Ruv as our 3rd ruv. I wish him much success. The hachtara was very emotional for me. He spoke beutifully. I see only good coming from Rabbi Braun. He did mention it will be bchesed and mercy. There were thousands of people there forsure, maybe 3000 to 4k. Remember there are many working people who had to leave early, as I did, and many people who came late. so there were many people who came in and out. I saw many choshever people in the… Read more »

It's time for Sholom
January 17, 2011 9:30 am

The Hachtarah was beautiful, a real Kiddush Hashem. There were Rabbonim who came from different community’s, like Ungvar, Stichen, etc. and Crown Heights Balabatim showed up in force. Rabosiy, It’s time for sholom. Those people from outside Crown Heights who criticize the Rebbes community, shame on you. This community has educated your children , opened their homes to you, and supported Chabad Houses all over the world. We have KA”H over 2500 families and we do have problems, but so do you. What message do we give our children, if we are always fighting with each other, and the Rabbonim… Read more »

I have a white beard
January 17, 2011 9:26 am

Can I sit at the head table?

Out of Towner
January 17, 2011 9:18 am

I am an out of towner but i do follow the crown heights vaad hakol frequently. I never post comments but after seeing the full story about rabbi braun i decided to speak up. I think that rabbi osdoba has no right to do this AT ALL. it is a complete lack of derech eretz for him. imagine if your “co-worker” refuses to come to your job “inauguration”. I think that people should start thinking about the lack of derech eretz rabbi braun is receiving. crown heights is in very tough times right now so we must give him the… Read more »

3000 people???
January 17, 2011 9:14 am

From all the pictures it looks like there were 7-800 people max and many if not most were bochurim??? This certainly doesnt look like the community showed up….

why is this "bittul torah"?
January 17, 2011 8:55 am

and going to bais rivka and shikeren zich ohn with “eletere mashpiyim” is NOT bittul torah!?
Didn’t the rebbe say that the whole community should come to a hachtora!? Why would this be “bittul torah” if it was done after seder?
If it was bogomilsky instead – it would be OK?!

BH now The real Rov of CH Can relax
January 17, 2011 8:44 am

To all those who came to this Hachtora. A picture is worth a thousand words. You now got yourself your Rav. To the Rest of you, I beg of you now that you have your rov you can ask him all your shailos, Nidda, Gittin, Kashrus Etc. Please leave Rabbi Bogomilsky alone. We have the evidence as to who you support. So don’t dare come with excuses and use him. Now in your eyes you have a beis din so its time to go there. Fight it out amongst yourselves. Rabbi Bogomilsky you know who your true chasidim are and… Read more »

Achdus begets achdus
January 17, 2011 8:36 am

this thing CANNOT last al pi torah-see the Rebbes sicha about veeyayosu kulom aguda achass LASOIS RTZOINCHA etc.,vol.2 in lkutei sichos pg.436-7.is anyone brave and honest enough to be mifarsem this sicha?alas the only definite thing to say about this sad affair is:'”rabonnus”,yesoido bemachloikus vesoifo bemachloikus!

Confused
January 17, 2011 8:18 am

Not entirely sure what’s going on here, but thank G-d I do not live in Crown Heights.
I hope to visit there soon to daven in the Rebbe’s Shul.

in the know
January 17, 2011 7:41 am

rabbi rosenberg lechatchila said he had was unable to stay for more than 20 minutes. and indeed he left after 20 minutes. the fact that it was after yechi was not connected to his leaving . he has been here around enough not to be surprised/shocked by yechi.

the bottom line is
January 17, 2011 7:38 am

crown heights cant function without an australian rov.

what's with the sign?
January 17, 2011 7:30 am

this is the first sign in years that does not have a slogan printed onto it. what gives?

SPEAK RESPECTFULLY ON WEBSOTE - ALWAYS; JUST GET THE SMICHA OFFICIALLY!
January 17, 2011 6:28 am

Firstly, even if there is CRITICISM – HOW CAN PEOPLE COUCH THEIR WORDS IN SUCH A DISREPCTFUL MANNER???

Secondly, let Rabbi /Braun – surely a fine person – just humbly sit for a few days or weeks and pass the smicha test. THAT’S IT!!!!!!!

:-)
January 17, 2011 6:21 am

Rabbi Ozdaba isn’t looking for arguments; as Rov, he has an achrayis to protest this injustice to the community. It’s easy to through out the “let’s make peace” term, and try to make Rabbi Ozdaba seem as one who takes delight in war. Using democratic party terminologies that indicate the reader isn’t a thinking person, by trying to set them to sleep with vague word choice. This is clearly a problem, and it was not handled in the most appropriate manner. But please, don’t make this Rabbi Ozdaba’s problem. He has served this community for many years, and may he… Read more »

Mendi
January 17, 2011 5:55 am

3.000 pepole?? Who are you kiding?

A Patch In Ponim
January 17, 2011 4:18 am

It was major “smack in the face” to “you know who”, the one who called on the entire community not to attend the event and 99% of the community ignored him anyway. I went over to one of the people in charge and asked him if perhaps we should call him now, since the place is packed and if he sees he lost anyway, he may as well come …. perhaps we should try and call him and ask him to come now, since 770 is PACKED. He answer me: “why bother calling him”? Who needs him, anyway since the… Read more »

WOW 97 AND 99
January 17, 2011 3:43 am

Most of you form your view from COL comments, not sechel anushi. The guy who wrote 50K was being…what is it they call it? Oh yeah, sarcastic.

# 90
January 17, 2011 3:41 am

1) The zabla of 5 distinguished rabbonim say that you are lying. They state clearly that he DID have semicha!

2) You probably never even heard of the names of the seforim he quoted during his speech at the hachtrara.

(some people think, that if they repeat the same lie many times (lack of semicha), some people will start to believe their malicious fabrications)

yossi
January 17, 2011 3:19 am

Why does everything have to start and finish with yechi even if it on the cheshbon of shalom and not machlokes

Yarich Yomim Al Mamlachto! Mazel Tov!
January 17, 2011 3:18 am
wow it was PACKED!
January 17, 2011 3:18 am
impressed
January 17, 2011 3:09 am

Wow, Rabbi Broin bring young, exiting talents to the Rabbinate of the community. as a first impression, he seems very learned and talented. i hope is a good new beginning for our entire community. mazal tov.

to #94
January 17, 2011 3:05 am

1) I go to the Besht and I was there with some friends.
2) There were tons of people there. I came in late (10:30pm) and there were tons of people leaving early. Put together those who left early and came late, and you’d have double what you see in the pics.
3) Why the cynicism and baseless sinas chinam?

great speaker
January 17, 2011 3:00 am

Mazal Tov Harav Broin. Yaarich Yamim Al mamlachto. his speaking skills are impressive as well as the content.

very large event
January 17, 2011 2:53 am

The crowd was much larger than I had anticipated. This was a clear and unequivocal statement that the community accepts the ruling of the zabla – regardless form whom they personally voted.

It was a huge, wonderful hachtara ceremony.

Re: 50,000 people
January 17, 2011 2:46 am

if you want to live in fantasy land and make yourself feel good – by all means. but anyone who was there and reads your comment will have a good laugh.

tzvi
January 17, 2011 2:45 am

this was a truly remarkable event. rabbi braun impressed me.

#94
January 17, 2011 2:43 am

R U identifying people from the pictures? WERE U THERE? were the photographers tiring to focus on the bochrim? you are hallucination…

Lubavitcher Chosid living outside Chrown Heights
January 17, 2011 2:40 am

After reading all here, I must be honest. I feel bad for the Rebbe’s Shchunah…I see many Chassidim, eltere Chassidim in these pictures, that are compromising their integrity and trying to grasp at straws for a semblence of normalcy. There seems to be a ayounger group of residents of Crown Heights, some with, some without beards, that have taken control of the Rebbe’s Schuneh of Kan Tziva. My yearning to come back to live in Crown Heights, has somewhat discipated, if this is what we have to look forward to. Di Aibisher vet zicher helfen.
NGCA

the COMMUNITY elected 3 Rabbonim
January 17, 2011 2:40 am

Rabbi Osdobo needs to meet one on one with Rabbi Braun and talk with him – directly – (without any ‘helpers’!) about any issues he may have.

The community elected a third rov to lead and service them. They elected a biad din. These three rabbonim MUST sit together – that is what they were elected for. There is no other option.

The rabbonim didn’t appoint a rov. It’s the community who did t (via elections)_. The community accepts him, the zablo confirms his position. This is the facts of life.

50,000 people
January 17, 2011 2:35 am

The chutzpa to underestimate the crowd. There was at least 50,000 people there besides every single Lubavitcher Moised from CH & internationally. The pictures also don’t tell the truth they only show about 50 baalei Machloikes like S & S. Can anyone identify one Yungerman from Bais Shmuel, Ohel Noson, The Besht, The Class etc. etc. etc.

impressed
January 17, 2011 2:34 am

im pretty impressed with the crowd. two chairs for many crown heighters who were able to make their way over. Moshiach NOW!

Honesty
January 17, 2011 2:30 am

Seems like many of the negative and mocking comments above are time stamped during the actual event. In other words, they probably were not in attendance at the hachtara.

These people are commenting about the feeling and number of baaley batim in attendance. are you guys for real? You are just making things up? Ask anyone who was there tonight – people from all political persuasions were sincerely impressed

Shea & Vaad
January 17, 2011 2:26 am

Reb Shea hecht was there for a very long time…

The entire Vaad Hakohol supported the hachtara and signed the teuda.

PLEASE
January 17, 2011 2:24 am

of course he can take the tests and do shimush lijke anyone else etc etc BUT do you really want to appoint a ‘rov’ who has gone about things in a dishonest way, who probably would have continued to assume his position on beis din as rov, without the necessary qualifications and training if he hadnt been found out????? Is this the kind of guy YOU want to TRUST with your shailos? Is this the kind of guy you want to TRUST with the shchunah? Is this the kind of guy who will bring PEACE to the neighbourhood because he… Read more »

Mazal Tov
January 17, 2011 2:24 am

This was my first personal contact with Rav Braun. I didn’t vote for him. Seeing and hearing him tonight gave me the sense that there is a likely possibility that he will be a healing and unifying force in our community.

wow - amazing
January 17, 2011 2:21 am

This was a truly amazing and inspiring hachtara. If game the feeling that there is truly hope for our community to ‘krich’ out of our mess.

This young, energetic and inspiring new Rov made a very positive 1st impression on me and those is spoke with. I hope & pray that Rabbi Osdobo and Shwey learn to all work together as a 3 man team.

ha ha
January 17, 2011 2:19 am

these politics r cute !!!!

are you joking?
January 17, 2011 2:14 am

R U guys for real? The place was packed with bochrim, and almost no baaley batim?

There was a very respectable turnout from all factions. I saw quite a few diehard supporters of Rabbi Osdobo stay for the entire duration of the hachtara. ‘milda d’avidi l’igluey lo meshakrei inshi…’

Mazel Tov!
January 17, 2011 2:13 am

Mazel Tov Rabbi.Braun. May you continue doing all the excellent work you do! You’re awesome!!!!

working together
January 17, 2011 2:11 am

I hope that Rabbi Osdobo will be able to communicate with the 3rd rov elected by the community. I understand that the new rov made several overtures to Rabbi Osdobo, I hope they will find some common language. After all, they were both elected by the community to serve the community (not themselves)

#79 Take the tests
January 17, 2011 2:09 am

Just for your info. The Rebbe stated this story several times about the Noda Beyehuda! It is a fact. There is a similar story of the Tzemach Tzedek.

When a rov is asked an actual, current question, he has ‘sayaato dishmayo’. When the question is only theoretical, Hashem does not mix it to protect his personal kovod.

concoct a controversy
January 17, 2011 2:06 am

Some are trying to concoct a controversy out of thin air, namely that Rabbi Rosenberg left as a protest to yechi.

Ask anyone who was involved in the planning of the event, they will tell you that Rabbi Rosenberg stated from the outset that he will be there from 9:15 to 9:30!

Beautiful event
January 17, 2011 2:03 am

It seems like the vast majority of negative posters above were written by individuals who maybe saw pictures of the event, but surely were NOT there. The place was filled because of bochrim??? Are you joking? Will you call day – night? Anyone who was present will tell you it was truly a very impressive showing – far larger then we ever had in the past. It was the furthest thing from partisan. It goes to show us that the vast majority want a fresh new start at sholom, achdus and effective leadership. And most importantly, they accept and follow… Read more »

nebach
January 17, 2011 2:03 am

hachtarah for a “rov” who cant be honest or transparent enough to just SHOW his alleged smicha certificate!
IS IT SO COMPLICATED?
apparently it must be…
Hashem yishmor, C.H…. get yourselves a real rov, an honest and integral one
there are no financial problems in sydney, wait and see how long it takes them to find a new rov, who will be paid! do you honestly beleive thats why they didnt renew his contract?????????,

Take the tests
January 17, 2011 1:52 am

Can’t Rabbi Braun take the tests from R. Lepikofsky like anyone else. 5 tests for smicha, and about 7 more for dayonis. This could take a smart person likr r. Braun maybe a month. Then get shimush. Rabbi Osdibo may then agree. Braun’s father was saying a story about a rov unable to answer hypotheticaal questions but gets help from heaven when there are real situations.

Yep
January 17, 2011 1:42 am

What a messed up community to be a part of………can anyone get along?! The word community comes from the word unity, if theres no unity theres no community, that pretty much sums up crown heights!

Mazel Tov!!! Mazel Tov!!!
January 17, 2011 1:30 am

welcome to our community
Shehecheyanu Vkimonu Vehigionu Lezman Hazeh!

Yasher Koach
January 17, 2011 1:24 am

Rabbi Braun. May you always go mechayil el chayil

To # 47
January 17, 2011 1:21 am

So lemoshol exactly to which moisad would you send your children? The one without the politics? And which one is that? Perhaps public school. In this way they’ll get exactly the same Yiras Shomayim as their father. A mentch is a shpigel, tateleh.

Hilul Hashem
January 17, 2011 1:16 am

its stupid and disgusting.

and for yud shvat no less.

It was a very nice event
January 17, 2011 1:12 am

It gave me real hope for the future of crown heights!

from Los Angeles.
January 17, 2011 1:06 am

When you take cow manure and spread it across the field it helps plants grow. When you gather it all up, all you have is a pile of ****. That is the difference between Chabad on Shlichus and Crown Heights. You make a mockery of the Rebbe and Chabad Chassidus! Far Shtusenkeit!

770
January 17, 2011 1:02 am

770 WAS FULL WITH BOUCHRIM FROM OT, AND KVUTZEH BOCHURIM. DIIDNT SEE ANY CHASUVA BALEI BATTIM…TO BE EXACT I DIDINT SEE ONE,,,JUST SAW THE USUAL LEDIK GAYERS AND EASY PASS HOLDERS…

watched the whole thing and
January 17, 2011 12:56 am

SORRY TO SAY BUT THIS LOOKED LIKE A BIG JOKE FIRST THEY GET 200 BOCHURIM FROM OT TO MAKE IT LOOK FULL THEN RABBI SHVEI GETS UP THERE AND INSTEAD OF SAYING A DVAR TORAH IS CURSING OUT RABBI OSDOBO (IS THAT HOW WE WILL GET ACHDUS) THEN R’ BROAN COMES UP AND MAKES JOKES OF MISNAGDIM AND SAYS HES NOT SURE WHY HE CAME TO ALL THIS TZOROS (AT LEAST HE ADMITS HE CAME TO TZOROS) AND SAYS THAT HE IS A RADICAL. RABBI ROSENBEGR LEAVES AFTER 5 MINUTES OF SAYING YECHI. AND THE LISTI GOES ON IS THIS… Read more »

Boruch N. Hoffinger BS"D
January 17, 2011 12:54 am

Most of the comments were unsigned…I just read them without too much ‘kavana’ or seriousness.
Not signing, I suppose they don’t want to be taken seriously…So why comment? Bettor off learning Torah.
Why do I comment…because it’s close to my heart. This is ‘The Rebbe’s MH’M’s’ neighborhood…only THE BEST.
Some are an ambush…criticize without a name…’pashkvil.’ Something The Rebbe, MH”M hated.
Why do they care? They’re ego is too big.
Anyway…congratulations Rabbi Braun…this ‘Kohaiine’ is behind you 100%.
But do we have a ‘beis din?’
1. Rabbi Schvei
2. Rabbi Braun
3. ?

My too cents
January 17, 2011 12:53 am

The crowd was not some crazy Mendel hendel mob, in fact the couple of times yechi was said there was a very weak response, the people there were your abridge joe’s who respected the will of this community that elected our new rov

Yungerman
January 17, 2011 12:52 am

BH a choshuver Talmid Chochom was inaugurated as Rov of CH. Most of the naysayers are ridiculously putting to risk their children’s frumkeit. As R Abba Paltiel stated, verbal disrespect for Rabbonim removes the yoke of respect from the youth. Get over it! Moshiach Now!

Gut Yom Tov
January 17, 2011 12:40 am

He was talking about 11 Shevat ,The day of Kabolus Hanusius.

I was very inspired
January 17, 2011 12:37 am

I was there and it was very inspiring. Good things are coming to Crown heights. If you want to stay in the past it is your choice. Those of us that were there are ready to move on!
PEACE!!!

N.D.
January 17, 2011 12:34 am

May the good times begin!

I CANT UNDERSTAND R. Osdoba
January 17, 2011 12:33 am

I CANT UNDERSTAND R. Osdoba i learned that a bias din must speak in one voice, one dayan is not allowed to reveal inner discussions. CAN someone please EXPLAIN THIS GEMARA? SANHEDRIN 31A ? “Question: What is the source that afterwards, a judge may not tell Ploni ‘I wanted to acquit you, but they outnumbered me’? Answer: It says “Lo Selech Rachil b’Amecha” and “Holech Rachil Megaleh Sod.” Once, a matter was said in the Beis Medrash, and it became known that a certain Talmid revealed it 22 years later. R. Ami expelled him from the Beis Medrash, and announced… Read more »

MAZAL TOV!!!!!!
January 17, 2011 12:24 am

Let’s be smart and look forward now that we finaly have a third Rov.

Let’s hop our community will do better and better until the coming of Moshiach.

remember the Rebbe
January 17, 2011 12:22 am

Remember the Rebbe. have Derech Eretz, and give nachas to him. Be a mensch, every one of you.
Its time

Yasher cheylach Zaki Tamir
January 17, 2011 12:18 am

I don’t know how you pulled this off…!

mazel tov
January 17, 2011 12:18 am

mazel tov to our new rov, rabbi braun shlit”a. yaarich yomim al mamlachto! may he (together with rabbi osdoba & rabbi schwei) raise the level of chasidishkeit and achdus in the entire community!

good night
January 17, 2011 12:15 am

i am a young bachur in zal, and i am wondering what is going on in crown heights. what is the big deal? what does a rav even do in the community? is it a real job like does it effect my life? why is it a high paying job? i am really lost are we just looking for a crutch in all our own issues? what will be if crown heights would have only one rav and when you need a beis din you can arrange a zabla why 3? if its big and needs more why not 2… Read more »

a loss for Sydney
January 17, 2011 12:12 am

Wishing Crown heights and the entire Chabad world may today start the begining of only nachas, successa nd happiness for everyone.

Nisht
January 17, 2011 12:11 am

I’m sorry. Do they think they have a nes rebbe? What a chutzpah.

Sholom Dovber
January 17, 2011 12:11 am

A very sad abuse of 770.
Remember his event as another descent in the life of our community.
There is no unified Beth Din.
This futher divides Crown Heights
The CHJCC is a disgraced organization.
A community being served by an individual without Smichah, what a scandal.
The Rebbe must be crying at this shunda
G-d deliver us from this mess
Moshiach Now! to save Lubavitch.

funny
January 17, 2011 12:06 am

i spotted hendel whats up whats his agenda please someone enlighten me on what his plans are

finally
January 17, 2011 12:06 am

Mazal Tov!
chevra – the simcha begins!

mazel tov!
January 17, 2011 12:05 am

I was there and it was very inspiring. Achdus will come. I can feel it. B”H!

all i can say is.........
January 17, 2011 12:00 am

i am soooo happy.
Best thing that happened to CH in a loooooooooong time.

Side Question
January 16, 2011 11:59 pm

Why can’t Bochrim over 20 vote for Rov even if they are not married?
Correct me if I’m wrong, by I believe there is no difference in Halocho between a man who is 20 and a man who is 30.
Why was there a difference by the election?

Why did Rabbi Rosenberg walk out ?
January 16, 2011 11:51 pm

Was there a reason that Rabbi Rosenberg walked out ?

Can someone explain ?

Kolel Yungerman
January 16, 2011 11:51 pm

Im sitting here at my computer and im confused, Confused if this is good or bad. Confused if this will be the solution. Confused if the rebbe is proud of this moment. Confused how i can explain this to my students, To my children when theyre grown. Confused all around, just like most of my friends and a lot of Crown Heights….

r' shmerel from oholei torah
January 16, 2011 11:49 pm

what allow buchrim to take off time from learning?

is this binyan beis hamikdash where do you get such a heter did you speak to a rav?

shame on oholei torah

i would not sent my sons to a mosod who has politics in its blood

helpings
January 16, 2011 11:46 pm

we need some action against having relatives running mosdos in ch i dont think it’s right in allowing mashpiem, rabbanim, rosh chevrah kadisha to all run the show we need a democracy

attendance
January 16, 2011 11:43 pm

was rabbi Groner there?

crownheiser
January 16, 2011 11:42 pm

he was awesome! dernumem yeder einer!i wish him lots of success-cuz he is going to need it!

A clear message was sent tonight.
January 16, 2011 11:41 pm

One of the main claims of those against rabbi broun is that those who voted for him didn’t have all the facts and if they would have known what they now know they wouldn’t have voted for him.

That argument can now be put to rest, I would say more people came out tonight then voted for him to begin with.

lashon
January 16, 2011 11:40 pm

What is going on at 770 it looks crazy fix those walls
ich how does the community allow such desecrating things to happen

Nice!
January 16, 2011 11:36 pm

I think this man is exceptional. He is not politicking. He is starting with a fresh slate. People need positive leadership that they can relate to.

I hope he brings healing to Crown Heights and that the Satan stops entering the heart of the ‘leadership’ and lead them astray towards machlokes, division and destruction. amen.

Well spoken
January 16, 2011 11:34 pm

Beautiful words, but may this only be a beginning and may the community go from strength to strength

okay
January 16, 2011 11:33 pm

enough already why everyone mentioning this end of fights
you all know your lying as we know there are more fights now then ever

abba
January 16, 2011 11:32 pm

why is hendel on the stage

amazing
January 16, 2011 11:32 pm

the new rav wow should run for president its cool

where are they coming up with the money for such an expensive rov?
January 16, 2011 11:31 pm
crazy
January 16, 2011 11:31 pm

its all fisher falt

hey
January 16, 2011 11:29 pm

tell zaki the rebbe runs the world

Bochrim? Rent a crowd?
January 16, 2011 11:29 pm

9:11 PM: Oholei Torah Zal was dismissed to go to the event. Rabbi Shmarya Roitblat told bochurim that “the Rebbe wanted it to be b’rov an hadras melech.”

Rabbi Roitblatt, with all due respect, when did the Rebbe ever allow Bochrim to be part of any such events? Because of your politics to support your Mechutan you take this responsibility against the Rebbe’s wishes to send Bochrim away from learning?

stinks
January 16, 2011 11:23 pm

R’Braun’s father says that ‘he wanted to give him smicha’ but couldnt lift the pen!?!?!? Seriously!? So does that mean that maybe hes saying he’ should have’ but ‘doesnt have’ Smicha? And do I really believe that someone is too weak to lift a pen to sign one name at the bottom of a paper?! to give his beloved grandson Smicha!? And a ROV makes a JOKE about misnagdim at his Hachtorah!!??! ok guys – there you have it- CH you are doomed and been duped !!!! And COL – you probably shouldnt publicize the whole joke thing – its… Read more »

Mazel Tov
January 16, 2011 11:19 pm

Mazel Tov Rabbi Braun, BE”H Rabbi Braun will be strong enough to withstand all the pressures of this great community.

Lets Hope that Rabbi Osdoba sees the clear intention of the community, and takes part in the new beis din.

The neie Rov Spoke VERY WELL
January 16, 2011 11:16 pm

NOT A PUSH OVER ROV

Other Rabonim?
January 16, 2011 11:12 pm

Did they get any outside Rabonim other then Rabbi Rosenberg, if yes who, if not, why not?

Impressed
January 16, 2011 11:11 pm

I must admit that the speech of HaRav Braun was incredible from the beginning to the end. WOWWW. really, I’m impressed.

bh we happy
January 16, 2011 11:10 pm

May ashem bless the community

Impressed
January 16, 2011 11:09 pm

B”H! Rabbi Braun will be a true Rav for our community.
May he have much Hatzlacha in his tremendous undertaking!

ends off with gut yom tov?
January 16, 2011 11:07 pm

whats that all about?

Great!
January 16, 2011 10:59 pm

Great!!!!!!

the past is past???
January 16, 2011 10:55 pm

HIRE CHARLIE AS ROV AND SAY THE PAST IS THE PAST WHO CARES IF HE HAS SMICHA OR NOT!!!

marching orders
January 16, 2011 10:51 pm

FROM HENDEL AND CO!!!

Rosenberg under the Yechi Sign
January 16, 2011 10:49 pm

He did not want to be exposed back in Monsey (BP & Willy) under the sign, so he left.

They don’t get it. They was shafted big-time.

The only peron present who has pikchus there is R.Mottele Gurary. Go figure. Maybe he’ll get a brettle.

Rabbi Osdova - give it up
January 16, 2011 10:48 pm

Now is the time for peace.

A great day for the Messianists
January 16, 2011 10:43 pm

A sad day for Crown Heights

cant Belive this
January 16, 2011 10:39 pm

WE DONT EVEN KNOW IF HE HAS S’MICHAH

DOOD, THIS IS SHULCHAN ARUCH, “BASICS!” HELLO IS SOMEONE LISTENING

Problem!!
January 16, 2011 10:38 pm

You know i am very hurt by this… This is the problem in out community,,, We are told NOT to go to 770 tonight by Rabbi Osdoba.

OTU
January 16, 2011 10:37 pm

Ending seder to rent-a-crowd is exactly what the Rebbe wants

its late
January 16, 2011 10:36 pm

the speeches are waaaay tooooo long

In 770 Right Now
January 16, 2011 10:28 pm

Wasn’t sure if I would come…but am so glad I did. It’s beautiful and so inspiring. Who knows…maybe with so many trying so hard (Zaki at the forefront, but every person who is here as well), this will mark a new beginning for the community.

shmuel
January 16, 2011 10:26 pm

rabbi rosenberg told a bochur on the way out left to protest yechi

zalman
January 16, 2011 10:26 pm

sounds like a politicla party not a hachtara

color war
January 16, 2011 10:25 pm

at 10:05 the general of the yellow team came out cheering to his teammates “who won this war”. we did.
at 10:15 they sang the team song.
the generals of the blue team were to busy planning the grand sing so they were to busy to attend.
judge Rosenberg left when his $400 an hour was up.
judge tamir said this one is not for points, and for poins will be next week

mostly bochurim
January 16, 2011 10:22 pm

just came from maariv in 770 the shul is full bot not full of crown heights residents i would say about 500 married men of the 2400 families we have in CH its mostly bochurim and guest

B'H
January 16, 2011 10:18 pm

What do you want to proves? That R’ Braun is the Meshichisten Rov and not the Rov of the community? We know from the beginning that he was supported by the meshichisten (being the candidate of HaRav Schwei), but he was elected and not only by meshichisten but by many non-Meshichisten as well to be OUR Rov. So please, Meshichist or not, let’s give him a chance. I don’t care if my comment is not published. We don’t care from which camp he comes. What we care for is the future of our community, our youth, the plague of tznius… Read more »

it's packed!
January 16, 2011 10:16 pm

where’s the respect for Rabbi Osdabo???

????????
January 16, 2011 10:09 pm

9:11 PM: Oholei Torah Zal was dismissed to go to the event. Rabbi Shmarya Roitblat told bochurim that “the Rebbe wanted it to be b’rov an hadras melech.” Bochurim were seen walking with him to 770.
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I think the Rebbe did not want bochrim getting involved in politics

Rabbi Rosenberg left because of Yechi?
January 16, 2011 10:05 pm

That’s how you’re making it sound. It wouldn’t surprise me if it were true but I am asking for clarification. Did Rabbi Rosenberg not understand that he was being used to support the most ridiculed fringe within Lubavitch?

there are no Anash @ the Hactara & Rozenberg is walking out
January 16, 2011 10:00 pm

He’s realizing he maid a bitter mistake, The main shul of 770 is packed with Bochrim from Oholei Tora. Shame on them, mixing the Bochrim in Shchuna politics & causing Bitul Tora & a Chilul Hashem

A Chutzpa to get the Bochurim invalved in Schuna politics
January 16, 2011 9:55 pm

When the S’forim arrived in 770, they are surely hollier than this purgurer, the rebbe didnt want the bochurim to go outside & great the S’forim, so there shouldnt be bitul Tora

Oholei Torah??!!
January 16, 2011 9:53 pm

For this nachmans let them be mevatel Torah??!!
But for kalmanson to give a shiur he couldn’d let that?
Where’s the leadership in OT?

A Chutzpa to get the Bochurim invalved in Schuna politics
January 16, 2011 9:52 pm

When the S’forim arrived in 770, they are surely hollier than this purgurer, the rebbe didnt want the bochurim to go outside & great the S’forim, so there shouldnt be bitul Tora

grainom
January 16, 2011 9:44 pm

rabbi rosenberg left already?! they didnt give him a seat?

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