I just purchased Kvuzat Yavneh olive oil in a reputable pesach store with a Badatz Yerushalayim Heschsher and an OU – P.
You can imagine my shock when I discovered that under the Badatz symbol, which was printed quite blurry as opposed to the clear OU – P next to it, were even blurrier, almost illegible words stating that Badatz certifies it for year round use ONLY.
Nowhere on the bottle does it say 100% olive oil or the ingredients it contains, so my family could have very well been eating kitnius, Rachmana Litzlan.
Of course there are so many heterim that I am sure there was no problem, but on Pesach, our family strives to be extra stringent.
It is shocking that a company can deliberately market its product as kosher for pesach up to the highest standards when it is completely the opposite!
I am posting this so that hopefully other families who have fallen for this scam can be aware.
I hope you will spread the word and prevent other families from being nichshal with this.
M.W.
how cud it be chomets number 7 u do NOT NO WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT be carefull what u say bc u look rly stupid
your yeshus (-pomposity and elitism), set off a cascade of negative (embarrassing!) comments.
matza is about humility.
hope you “derher”.
number 7 u dont no what ur y=talking about shmalts is not chomet snd what deos #10 mean s/o pls answar me
Gross, I’d rather just not use oil. Also, isn’t all extra virgin olive oil, kosher lapesach?
:] No. it stands for OU-PASSOVER. (meaning kosher l’pesach)
i dont get it everybody is always saying that they should free rubashkin and moshiach should come because antisemitisim
if you guys really want moshiach to come you need to start in your own backyard ( coments, ahavas israel) just because somebody wrote something thats not your minhag you dont need to critize everything
is number 31
doesnt ou-P stand for Pareve?
in response to this article and all other articles the best response is NUMBER 25,take a moment and think about it!!
The problem is that the whole label looks schlocky and forged. I would not use this product without calling the OU, regardless of the Badatz policy. And given that the OU posek is the sonei Belsky, I do not use OU certified products when another choice is available.
This year the OU introducted “OU Kitnyous” hechsher to benefit Sefardim who have been subjected to wrong information by well intentioned Rabbis for many years.
Not to worry. there is no kitnios. OU-P claims that its kosher, but Badatz, which is most stricter heksher, agrees with that, but they can give their word on that. Basically – words ‘all year round’ by badatz do NOT mean its not kosher lepesach. it just means that Badatz can not grantee it
I mean, some people regard kitnius as a problem and in their eyes it is completely Osur. Just like those that say the Chalav Akum is totaly a problem though there is some kind of heter.
Meaning that the writer of this article considers kitnius BAD just like people consider chalav akum bad (even though in both cases there are those that paskan leniently). I do agree with you that halachicly speaking Chalav Akum is a COMPLETELY different case and one cannot compare regarding one case being “more” Asur then the other.
In an interview with Rabbi Yitzchok Isaac Landau he says in days gone by, when people processed their own chickens (salting etc.), using the shmaltz you made from your own chickens was a hiddur. Today, when you buy ready-to-use chicken in the store, there is no hiddur in making shmaltz out of this processed item.
it is commendable that people strive to be stringent (machmir) especially during Pesach.
Now let us try to be stringent in our business dealings, let us pay our taxes, not abuse government programmes, take our wages in cash so we can get section 8 and medicare etc etc
Theres no reason to bash the letter writer…. You can tell him/her politely that olive oil is not kitnius. mean and harsh.
Writer is a real Am Ho’oretz. olive oil is NOT Kitnius
only if it is cold pressed. please check out info before giving advice.
Only cold pressed does not; call your local rabbi.
this is a clear case of Motzi Shem Ra. why COL would publish this article is beyond me. there is no proof that this item is in fact Chometz or Kitniyos. its on the same level as saying that vitamin water is cholov akum b/c there is magnesium lactate and calcium lactate both of which happen to be electrolytes, but if you’re ignorant enough then everything is treif and chometz. if you want to be strict DON’T buy processed foods! i would not eat in your house on pesach if your mouth has so much chometz in it, i can… Read more »
if on Pesach your family strives to be extra stringent don’t use olive oil or any oil.
if on Pesach your family strives to be extra stringent don’t use olive oil or any oil.
to #6 Chalav Akum is forbidden to use according to halacha while kitniyos is perfectly kosher for Pesach, so no comparison and “rachmana litzlan” is better used for chometz. This in no way makes light of the Ashkenazic practice to avoid eating those foods that are in the category of kitniyos.
I just have to point out that you wrote “our family strives to be extra stringent.”If you do, you would not be eating or drinking anything procesed.
I agree with #4 and #5
If you have nothing better to write, don’t write at all.
kol hacavod (to the writer)
100 % virgin olive oil does not need a pesach hechsher
period
The bread of emunah.
a) don’t just “assume” there’s a problem….
b) there are many reasons the don’t put the hechsher on (maybe the badatz hechsher for pessach is an extra $5,000)
c) if you’re so worried then be like the rest of the ppl who are concerned and don’t use manufactured products
Badatz Yerushalayim does not give hechsherim to most manufactured food products.
In such cases Chug Chasam Sofer or another reliable hechseher takes over.
OU does not give hechsherim on kitnios.
kitnius is not treif, but according to ashkenazic standards it is OSSUR on pesach and not just a chumra that came about recently because they didnt have it in russia, it dates back and is mentioned in shulchan aruch and for Ashkenazim it is totally OSSUR and therefore should not be made light of
I beleive the badatz has a policy that they only give a kosher for pesach hechsher if their is a mashgiach timidi as apposed to the ou
And if i would say that i nearly chas veshalom ate Chalov Akum would you say “what about all those who eat Chalav Akum and they even have a heter”?!
“……my family could have eaten kitnius, rachmana litzlan”
kitnius IS NOT TREIF. What about the wonderful sfardim reading this who DO eat kitnius on pesach .. ur making them feel guilty of eating something that is perfectly ok and up to par on their standards. Choose a better choice of words, MW.
The OU holds that all extra virgin olive oil is kosher for passover as long as it has a good “year round” hechsher; no special labelingis required for Pesach. Most Israeli charedi hechsherim require mashgiach tmidi for the entire process so it is quite common to see an OU-P and a “year round” Israeli hechsher on a product.
The amaratzas has got to stop….
kitnios who posted this anyways it is embarassing to read
it is nice to be warm and fuzzy and machmir but a chosid is a kluger
learn halacha and stop making youself and everyone else crazy